http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ Daily Kitten Chat Forum Topic: I'm Ready to Quit the New Job. en Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:55:13 +0000 http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445310 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:06:32 +0000 GreatDane 445310@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Thanks, 2p! I'll see what they have to say, for sure. If it's just different hours, doing the same kind of thing, I don't want it. I was pretty adamant with XBF that I just don't like this kind of job and am bored out of my mind. I also told him it's not worth the money they're paying me to miss tennis, drive as much as I do, and never have any time off.<br /> The boss told me he will work with me so I'm happy - he says it may not be perfect for the company, but it'll be great for me. Don't know what that means!</p> <p>The one good thing about staying would be keeping an eye on my bonuses. I mentioned to XBF that I wasn't making enough there, so I'm sure he brought that up with the boss, too. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445306 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:31:57 +0000 2 Popoki 445306@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Glad you were paid correctly ! They had said before that they wanted to move you into a different position.. interesting how that was not brought up again until you voiced your dissatisfaction and desire to leave. Hear them out... if it's good for you to stay - stay. If not - there are options. And it seems they were able to replace your friend rather quickly. Best of luck whichever way you go. Only YOU know what's best for you. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445304 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:22:51 +0000 GreatDane 445304@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>I don't like having to wait til Monday to find out what'll happen at the new job, but I guess I'll have to. And the good thing is that if i don't like it, I don't have to take it.<br /> Also - I did get paid for Labor Day - and for Tuesday when I wasn't there due to the dead car battery :) </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445217 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:06:41 +0000 GreatDane 445217@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Well, I spoke to XBF this morning. He told me the lady got fired because they intercepted her emails and found she was the one who had spoken to one of the competitors. Who knows? I told him I want to quit. That I'm tired of making phone calls every day, tired of being tired, missing tennis and having no life. He was very understanding. He suggested he mention this to the boss first to see if we can work something else out - different hours and a different job here. Boss came and spoke to me briefly before he left for the weekend and told me he wanted to speak on Monday. Apparently they really want to keep me here and he said what he has in mind will work very well for me. I don't know what his plan is, but I'll find out on Monday I guess. I've got nothing to lose. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445189 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:06:11 +0000 Karenopa 445189@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>(((GD))) Sure hope this new company doesn't cheat you out of your bonus. KYKAT sounds spot on with gently inquiring and feeling them out for your expected bonus payment. They may have been 'working you' all along. This could help to force their hand in a way that appears to be completely innocent. I hate that we have a world where such strategies are necessary to get what is rightly ours. =( </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445174 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:28:01 +0000 KYKAT 12 23 445174@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Before you mention quitting to anyone, tell the bosses that you have a big expense coming up and ask when to expect your bonus. See what they say. If they put a date on it, stay until after then. If they are evasive, ask for clarification on bonus payment schedule. Mention again that you have a big expense coming up and that you are having to pay out so much in gas just to get there that you need it as soon as possible. This establishes reasonable grounds for when you do leave. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445156 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:06:17 +0000 Siobhan 445156@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Stick by your guns on getting the bonus. Never Be Afraid To Ask For What You Want... as long as it's reasonable, and this most certainly IS. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445050 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:17:55 +0000 GreatDane 445050@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>(((Mama Lynn))) Thank you! Those are comforting words. That makes a lot of sense,Jcat - I'll make sure I take documentation with me of my contacts. And you're right, they had no scruples handling my friend today, so they'll probably avoid paying me what they owe if they can get away with it. If XBF doesn't get too disappointed in and mad at me over this, it would help me to have him on my side. I don't know how he'll react,though - I don't think he'll be happy, that's for sure. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445043 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:04:02 +0000 jcat 445043@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>{{{GD}}} I hope they keep their word too but seeing as they haven't paid your friend for a statutory holiday, I think it's rational to assume that they probably won't.</p> <p>So... keep the contact details of all the possible deals you think might come through. Just jot them in your notebook. (Probably wiser not to do anything on their computer.) Aren't you originating them anyway? so they're your contacts. And make sure you have a copy of contact details of the people involved in any future appointments you set. That way, even after you leave, you can still contact them and ask whether they committed to anything with your employers. They might not tell you ... but if your employers know you're following up, after you've left, it might help to keep them honest. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445036 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:47:59 +0000 Lynn from PA 6/8 445036@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>GD, it just doesn't get better for you, dear lady, does it? I am so sorry to hear of your friends dismissal, but many words have been given to you and I have to agree. Give the 2 weeks, try to suck it up, and move forward. God has another plan for you, you don't know it yet, but I so believe he does. I have no advice, that hasn't already been given, but just to do the right thing in leaving this bad situation, and move on. Easier said than done, I know. But I have faith in you and your ability to make something of nothing. Know that we are here for you and I will say a prayer for your peace and comfort in the next couple of weeks. Call on us as you need to, we are here. Love you, Mama Lynn </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-445035 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:47:33 +0000 GreatDane 445035@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>That makes a lot of sense, Jcat! I'd hate to lose the money they owe me. I have about ten other possible deals out there and the law of averages says one or two of those should work out as well. They're supposed to pay me for them, but since I'm quitting, I'll never know if those deals went through or not, so all I can do is hope they keep their word.<br /> I think I'll mention quitting to play tennis and work at the gym and ten menion that it's not worth it to me to drive there every day for what I'm making. When they mention the bonuses, I'll mention the fact that I haven't seen any of that money yet and see what they say to that. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-444992 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:47:13 +0000 jcat 444992@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>{{{GD}}} If they did it to your friend, they'd do it to you, in a heartbeat, as soon as they felt you were no longer as useful to them as you are now. For what it's worth, I think you are doing the right thing. </p> <p>AND I think it's appalling that you suspect you won't get that bonus you earned fair and square for the big deal you brought them in. I wonder, if they know you're upset, and they talk to you tomorrow in an effort to reassure you and get you to stay, if you can say something like, well, I'd feel happier about the whole situation if I'd been paid for my bonuses or we had my bonuses on paper -- something like that. Or if you say you're leaving to play tennis and they try to persuade you to stay with them, again, you say, well, I would be more inclined to stay if.... and again you bring up the bonus thing.</p> <p>(Then, of course, as soon as you've got it, IN your bank account or IN writing that they owe it to you, you still quit.) It's not fair that they should get away with not paying you what they owe you. (And then you could do something nice for your friend too, with the money you wouldn't otherwise have had.) </p> <p>I can't tell you, as a freelancer, the number of times I've been taken advantage of, not paid, not paid what I should have been, not paid when I should have been... and it was made easier for my 'employers' because I hated being hardnosed and even talking about money. Now, I think, I'm tired of being treated like that, I'll be as hardnosed as you would be, given the chance, but as diplomatically and in as nice a way as possible, so I don't burn any bridges. It's not like you're asking for anything you've not earned.</p> <p>Loads of {{{HUGS}}} to you and to your poor friend. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942/page/2#post-444987 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:19:24 +0000 GreatDane 444987@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>I've always given two weeks' notice, and I definitely will again. I'll see what they say - I'd really rather not stay another two weeks, but I will if I have to. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444985 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:55:24 +0000 ailuromaniac 444985@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Giving two weeks notice is not so much a courtesy for your current employer as one for your future employer. You are saying to the next employer,"I am responsible and will not leave you in a lurch."<br /> My current employer expressed such relief when I insisted on giving 2 weeks notice and all I was doing was reducing my hours. The hiring manager said he would be very uncomfortable with someone willing to jump ship to change jobs without necessity. I went to part time at my old job for 18 months before easing out. True, I loved my full to part-time gig, but 2 weeks was totally overboard since I was just cutting back hours. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444977 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:24:04 +0000 GreatDane 444977@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Oooooh, that would be nice, Cheri - then I can't chicken out! :)<br /> We'll carry the party over til Tuesday so you can participate, too! I hope your computer situation gets fixed asap. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444974 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:16:46 +0000 CSBM 444974@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>monday night's NS Cafe will have to be the "GD gave notice" party. i'll have to read about it the next day. i can't wait for my computer to be home, but i'll have to... </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444969 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:03:04 +0000 GreatDane 444969@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>100% with martinis? Can't beat that!!!</p> <p>I'm relieved I've made the decision - I've been way too stressed out, tired and missing my life. If I can come in earlier at the gym instead of having to open, I'll be just fine here. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444960 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:51:41 +0000 mollycat71 444960@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Aw, GD, what a bummer! I can't tell you how awful that place sounds. I wish it would have worked out but it didn't. I know that out there is the job for you! I know I thoroughly enjoyed working at the YMCA and I understand you wanting to stay at the gym if possible. Know your TDK family is behind you 100% WITH MARTINIS! </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444958 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:47:28 +0000 GreatDane 444958@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>I emailed Auntie Ellen and told her we're going out for sushi when I quit! :) </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444938 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:08:30 +0000 GreatDane 444938@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>It sure does, GA! And now that things are going better at the gym, everyone's in a better mood. I actually have been enjoying coming to work :) </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444934 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:03:00 +0000 GizzysAuntie 444934@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>How smart you were not to give up your job at the gym, GD, until you had some experience with the new job. Gives you a bit of a cushion. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444930 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:40:37 +0000 GreatDane 444930@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Oooooh, I like the party idea, SB - that's great!!! I'll do something like that!<br /> I hope if I quit on Monday, that I can just work for the rest of the week and be done, but if I have to do two weeks, I will. If they tell me to leave, that's fine, too. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444929 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:18:53 +0000 SugarBee 444929@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Oh yes! One thing I did was make sure I gave my notice, though working with those toxic Witches was not pleasing. I was told to just finish out the rest of the week, but at least once I did it(gave notice) I felt more at peace. Knowing there was a light at the end of the tunnel gave me hope. Of course try to rack up as many hours at your other job, fine a new one if you need to, as you can, and go through the employee handbook with someone legally savvy. That is one thing I didn't do which I wish I had done! Plan yourself a freedom party with your friends for after your last day! that will also give you something to look forward to and most of all keep your eye on your own happiness, which is the ultimate goal!!! </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444928 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:16:24 +0000 GreatDane 444928@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Thanks, all!<br /> I spoke to the front desk manager and she said instead of working both nights and mornings, I should just come in earlier. Tomorrow when EBL is in, we'll ask her if I can start coming in at three on Mon - Thur. and two on Fri (we close an hour earlier). This would give me an hour an a half extra a day which will be enough. She doesn't think it'll be a problem.</p> <p>I will go in tomorrow and do my job and get paid for the last two weeks. On Monday I will give them two week's notice and see what happens. I think they actually like me up there and the work I've done. I don't like the work, however. I'll tell them I'm getting more hours at the gym and that tennis season is starting and I won't be able to stay on my team while working there mornings. This way I can make it about my schedule and tennis and not anything about them. Since they're friendly with XBF, I don't want to burn any bridges if I don't have to.</p> <p>I don't know if there's an employee handbook, but obviously there's some kind of contract that the others have signed. We got an email a few weeks back that listed all paid holidays and Labor Day was listed as one. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444918 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:38:17 +0000 Vicki 444918@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>I'd stick it out if I had a job; at least hang in there until you get another job. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444908 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:15:49 +0000 whistl 444908@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>There's no rule that says you have to give two weeks notice. Companies aren't required to give notice before terminating you, and visa versa is true too. When it comes to references, all anyone can legally say about you is that yes, you were employed there, your job title was xxx, you started on m/d/y and your last day was m/d/y, and you were being paid $$$ at the end. They can NOT give their opinion about you, nor mention anything as petty as whether you left without giving two weeks notice or not. Of course, if the person asking for the reference and the person giving the reference know each other well, often that rule is ignored. :(</p> <p>One tactic people employ, when they think they are on the outs anyway, is to give two weeks notice, hoping that they will be walked out right away, in which case they usually get two weeks severence pay. It doesn't always work, but it usually does. At least with large, honorable offices it does. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444906 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:12:34 +0000 KYKAT 12 23 444906@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>You may find that now that you have made your mind up to leave that it somehow gets easier. Work your two weeks before you quit since you think they will ask you to leave immediately. Actually if you get the shift at the gym it gives you a graceful exit. You can explain that they need you for more and more hours and since they were your employers first you feel you need to be loyal and stick with them. Since they know for sure that you aren't going to a competitor then it shouldn't be a hard feelings situation. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444903 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:09:46 +0000 jeankit 444903@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>I totally agree with Willow &amp; 2Pop...must give 1-2 wk notice. In this market you need to stick it out to use on resume if need! I've had experience in being part of a toxic work place and stuck around until I found a new place of employment because of my needs. If you can go w/o a back up plan, Go Girl with a toast to a new job in a better envirmonment! Cheers!!! </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444902 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:09:31 +0000 Sheba's Mom in Raleigh, NC 444902@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>Federal law dictates they must have one. </p> http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/20942#post-444900 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:07:03 +0000 Kilroy 444900@http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/ <p>I don't think they have an employee's manual, right GD? </p>