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  1. After the church service yesterday, when I went to shake hands with the Temp, he asked me if anyone associated with the benevolence organization had contacted me. They hadn't, so the Temp told me what happened during the Council meeting on Wednesday night. He brought up Mr. Leeny's dental problem. A letter is going to be sent to the members of the congregation explaining the need, telling them that the church is raising funds to meet it, and letting them know that the benevolence organization is involved. He ended by smiling and telling me that "they're on it."

    Mr. Leeny is doing much better since starting on his antibiotics. He got up and did a frenzy of housework over the weekend, and even went with me and his aunt to the church's Thanksgiving dinner and worship service last night.

    I have been seriously considering encouraging Mr. Leeny to get a job to pay for his own dentures. Right now, he can say that the problems he's having from his bad teeth make him feel too bad to look for work or go to a job, but that won't be the case after the teeth are gone. I think that janitorial work would be the best fit for him. He's very good at cleaning and organizing; he would not have to meet the public; he could work evenings and nights, which is when he tends to be most alert; and his age would not count against him--seniors are often hired for positions like this. He was never required to work, or even to contribute any of his Social Security income to his own support, when he lived with his parents, so the idea of providing for himself is totally novel. Knowing that if he wants dentures he's going to have to work for them, though, may be just the thing to get him moving.

    I've got another stupid thing happening to me medically. It's probably something called cubital tunnel syndrome (I think), which is similar to carpal tunnel syndrome but happens up in the elbow and affects a different nerve. I have an appointment on Dec. 3 to have a test done for an exact diagnosis. The treatment is similar to that for carpal tunnel, only it's done to the elbow instead of to the wrist.

    I want to tell you that your concern about me means very much to me. I don't mean to scare anyone with my references to suicide. I know this may be difficult to understand, but in my family suicide and self-injurious behavior were not that big a deal, so I don't realize how upsetting it can be to others. My brother, for instance, used to cut his arms with knives when he was an adolescent. The only thing that ever happened because of it was that my mother (who was still sick at the time) would scream at him for getting blood on the floor, jab at his injuries with a wet Kleenex, and stick some band-aids on them. She, herself, during psychotic breaks, swallowed overdoses of pills on several occasions. My father (who was also still sick at the time) never reacted except to call an ambulance when my mother ODed. Just as children who witness violence between their parents can grow up thinking it's "normal" and continue it in their own marriages, I suppose I've absorbed the idea that it's OK to hurt yourself. At 51 years old, I really don't know how to change that perception. Receiving the loving concern of TDKers, however, makes me want to live.

    Posted 12 months ago by Leeny #

  2. First Leeny, I'm very happy that your church is trying to help you and Mr.Leeny. I'm so sorry you had to grow up with these things all around you, but I think you are starting to see another world out there..I pray you continue to open your eyes and your heart to beauty that God has placed on Earth for us. and remember that your life is a gift from God!!!

    Posted 12 months ago by 2bpurring #

  3. Hi Leeny, I just wanted to check in to TDK to see if anyone had heard from you, and here you are! I'm glad to hear that things are looking better for you. I also think you are right about Mr. Leeny - getting a job might be the best thing for him. He will have a sense of accomplishment that he was able to take care of himself. It sounds to me like he already took a big step by being willing to talk to the church benevolent funds people. I'm also glad that the antibiotics are helping him. As for your elbow, I had that in my wrists once; I thought I had carpal tunnel for sure, but it turned out to be tendonitis which went away on its own. I hope yours turns out to be the same kind of thing.

    Posted 12 months ago by NNGM #

  4. Leeney, you really are cared for even if it is by us crazy cat people!
    I am glad the church is helping out with the dentist

    Posted 12 months ago by TheKnittingNinja #

  5. Leeny, first of all, I'm glad that you took a few minutes to post a reply. I haven't been quite as concerned as others, but it's hard for me to be able to tell in writing, just how seriously one might be contemplating a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

    It sounds as though janitorial work might be right up Mr. Leeny's alley! It certainly plays to some of his strengths, and would help him avoid things that he'd find critically uncomfortable. The one thing to guard against is the attitude of some people that janitorial work is somehow not worthy of respect. As long as Mr. Leeny can keep firmly in mind that an honest, paying job is perfectly respectable, he should be able to deal well with anyone he runs into who might be of a different opinion.

    I hope that your elbow problem clears up soon, regardless of the exact diagnosis. If you spend a lot of time at a computer, you might want to check out the situation with your work surface, armrests & elbow positioning while you work. I have to use an ergonomically friendly keyboard at home; I discovered while having my left hand splinted up to the wrist that it's much more natural to have a split keyboard.

    I'm relieved that you posted today. It's true that mentally ill behaviors, etc. are not the norm, but if you grew up in the atmosphere you described, it's no wonder that you don't have quite the same reaction to the topic that many others would have. I'm glad that you understand that people here care about you, and want to know if you're okay or not.

    Good luck on the continued progress toward financial assistance!

    Posted 12 months ago by anncetera2 #

  6. Leeny, I was awfully relieved to see your post today and to "see" that you sound better. To have Mr. Leeny working in order to help pay for his dentures is a wonderful idea, for both of you. He really has nothing now to make him feel as though he is making a contribution. Although he has never been encouraged to work and contribute, I can't help but think that it would raise his feeling of self-worth if he knew that he was helping you. And helping himself. We all need to feel that our lives count for something.

    I cannot even imagine the trauma of your formative years at home with your family. Perhaps because you have been witness to so much, you would value life all the more.

    I'm so glad that help is on the way. Take good care.

    Posted 12 months ago by WillowandWindismom #

  7. Leeny glad you posted and there are some bright spots ahead! I hope Mr. Leeny will take to the idea of working as it can really do a lot to open up his world and take some of the burden off of you. You both are in my thoughts and prayers.

    Posted 12 months ago by KYKAT 12 23 #

  8. Sending positive energy to both you and Mr. lenny that things work out for you both. You have had a rough life, and deserve better things. Thanks for keeping us posted.
    Peace, hugs and purrs.

    Posted 12 months ago by artistabobbi TX 1/17 #

  9. I'm so glad you posted this positive news today, Leeny! Your update helps me understand your situation better. I hope Mr. Leeny is able to find a job. It would lift such a burden off your shoulders and do much for his self esteem and understanding of what it means to shoulder some responsibility for his choices. You are both in my prayers. {{{hugs}}}

    Posted 12 months ago by Kitten Whisperer #

  10. Leeny, is it possible that the church could hire him to do janitorial work? Maybe that way he could feel he is "paying back" the congregation for their concern for him.

    Posted 12 months ago by paulajeanne #

  11. The church already has a sexton, PJ, so I don't think they'd be able to do that.

    Posted 12 months ago by Leeny #

  12. That is good news that Mr. Leeny wants to find a job. I echo what others have said about the job and all. Sending you prayers that all works out.

    Posted 12 months ago by SylvesterMiasMomma #

  13. I was thinking just what PJ asked. If not your church, maybe another church in your area is looking for a janitor. Our church has a part time janitor, he doesn't attend our church (it is a rule that employees not be members of the parish). Good luck and I am glad that you are feeling more positive. I would try to massage the nerve that is bothering your elbow, gently of course. I have a writer friend that has written 60+ novels on computer. She has never had surgery on her wrists or elbows because of gentle massage in her elbows. You are in my thoughts and prayers as is everyone in TDK,
    Peace,
    tf

    Posted 12 months ago by tinafishfrombirthplaceofElvis #

  14. Leeny it is so good to hear from you! I am so happy to hear that your church will help your husband. One thing you might look into is visiting your Vocational Rehab office. They are so helpful in helping to place people with disabilities in jobs, and they really work to make sure that it is a good fit for both employer and employee. There are no income requirements to use their service. Hope your elbow gets better soon--pain is no fun!
    Hope you and Mr Leeny have a Happy Thanksgiving!

    Posted 12 months ago by rainingwolf 6/15 #

  15. {{{Leeny}}}

    Hey, Leeny, it's good to hear from you! I'm glad the church is able to help. Now I'll hope that your elbow gets to feeling better.

    {{{more hugs for Leeny}}}

    Posted 12 months ago by Cats4Cats #

  16. Thank you for all the feedback and well wishes, everyone. If I were a kitty, I would purr!

    Rainingwolf, several years ago we did look into Voc Rehab for Mr. Leeny, and at that time they said they were only enrolling people in financial need. Well, we are in financial need now, regardless of my income. I'll be glad to let them see the medical bills and have the Temp tell them that the church paid for the oral surgery.

    Posted 12 months ago by Leeny #

  17. Beat of luck, Leeny. I'm glad it looks as if your church will be able to help and that Mr. Leeny seems open to the idea of getting a job.

    Posted 12 months ago by GreatDane #

  18. Leeny, it's so good to hear from you and sounding so positive. I'm hoping that Mr Leeny can find a good janitorial job, as that sounds like an excellent idea, and that your elbow feels better soon too. {{{HUGS}}}

    Posted 12 months ago by jcat #

  19. Stay in touch, Leeny, we are here for you. I wish you the most comfort and strength to deal with your situation and am glad that others are helping you as well. You have us, always, never forget that. Love Mama Lynn

    Posted 12 months ago by Lynn from PA 6/8 #

  20. Leeny thank you for letting us know you are okay. You are so very valuable to this community! I am thrilled to hear that your church will be able to help somehow. Please know you are in my prayers everyday, peace and comfort surround you Leeny.

    Posted 12 months ago by SoxsMom #

  21. Thank you again, everyone, for your words of love and encouragement. They mean a great deal to me.

    Well, last night I got the letters from the finance companies that turned me down for medical loans, and I don't believe the reason they gave for turning us down! They turned down Mr. Leeny because he doesn't have any recent credit accounts, and they turned me down because (1) my credit cards are too close to being maxed out (which I expected them to say), but (2) because the credit limits aren't high enough! In other words, we're not in enough debt to qualify for the loan!

    Back in 2003, Mr. Leeny and I went through chapter 7 because when we got married I thought Mr. Leeny understood more about the use of credit cards than he did and I put his name on my accounts. He ended up running me into way more debt than I could repay because of the high credit limits on the accounts I had at the time. We have mutually agreed that Mr. Leeny will never have another credit card--in addition to our joint checking account, we each have an individual spending money account with a debit card attached to it. I don't want another credit card with a $13,000 credit limit because I can't afford to pay back that much money! I expected them to mention my debt-to-income ratio, but other than the high card balances, they didn't say anything about that.

    I don't understand this.

    Posted 12 months ago by Leeny #

  22. I used to work in credit and I can tell you, even they realize how lame their reasons are at times..Either you owe too much or not enough..but if you own slightly more than you can comfortably repay...then they will loan you more!! You would think in the middle of what this country is going thru financally that not having too much debt would be looked upon as a good thing!!!

    Posted 12 months ago by 2bpurring #

  23. I just read something on the AP newswire about some government rescue mission to financial companies that will enable them to extend more credit card debt to more people. Maybe if I'd just waited a few weeks I'd have gotten approved.

    Posted 12 months ago by Leeny #

  24. Leeny...I can't offer you any advice. Thru the years of working,I always paid cash for everything (my thought was that if I couldn't pay for it in cash, I didn't need it). The end results is zero credit. Those companies would be laughing me all the way out the doors.
    I can only offer You & Mr.Leeny my Love & Support & lots of {{{HUGS}}}. I'm so glad that your Church is going to help you both.

    Posted 12 months ago by feral #

  25. Hi Leeny..Once more I'm in awe of how strong you are in the face of this tumultous world. I personally find it so overwhelming at times that I feel parilyzed in doubt and uncertainty. When I hear reports from you and Mr. Leeny I find new hope and determination. God Bless Leeny and Mr. Leeny.

    Posted 12 months ago by Karenopa #

  26. Leeny, I just wanted to send you hugs and let you know that I think you are a wonderful strong person. I am sending you my best wishes and I really really hope something comes through soon. ((hugs))

    Posted 12 months ago by ginirosaru #

  27. Leeny, you had me scared, but I'm so very happy to hear things are better. Please take care of yourself. Your plan for Mr. Leeny sounds perfect. He will find joy he's never known in earning something for himself. And you will get a much needed break!!!

    Posted 12 months ago by lisaeylau #

  28. Leeny, I don't know what to say, but know my prayers are with you. Love, mama Lynn

    Posted 12 months ago by Lynn from PA 6/8 #

  29. Leeny, I missed this thread when it was first posted, but I'm so releived to hear from you, you seem in a much more positive frame of mind. The news from the loan company isn't so good though, is there another loan company or bank you could approach?

    Posted 11 months ago by MadcatwomanintheUK #

  30. MCW, the Temp suggested applying for a bank loan, but every time you get turned down for a loan, that goes on your credit report, too. I told him I didn't want to risk it. He said that it would probably be better to wait until the church and the denominational benevolence organization had raised all the money they could, anyway, so that we'd know how much more we need.

    I got a third and final letter from the finance companies yesterday. Mr. Leeny and I both applied to the one the oral surgeon takes and I applied to one I had used before. This letter was mine from the first company. It made more sense than the other letters did. It, also, mentioned my high card balances and the chapter 7 filing--fair enough--but it also said I had too many bank card accounts opened recently and that I had been delinquent in payments either in the past or present. Now, to me "too many" and "recently" are subjective terms. I don't have any card that I wasn't offered, and I was selective about accepting the offers. I've had one card for almost 5 years and I've had the most recently acquired one for a little more than a year. I think the facts that I've never missed or even been late with a payment on any of them, and I always pay more than the minimum amount, should count more than the number or recency of the accounts.

    I question this business about delinquent payments, though, and I want to find out what that's about. I don't think that can be included as something separate from the chapter 7 filing, and I sure don't remember anything apart from that on which I was ever delinquent. The letter says I'm entitled to get a free copy of my credit report within 60 days, and I'm going to arrange for that. I need to check it. I know I'm going to see my credit score, and I already know it stinks, so I'll need TDKers to help me remember that this score is not the measure of my worth as a human being.

    The office closes at 1:00 today, so I'll be off line after that until Monday. Have a happy and blessed Thanksgiving, all TDKers!

    Posted 11 months ago by Leeny #


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