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  1. Thought I should post this as I was stuffing my freezer with sale items the other day. I don't have another free sample or coupon site but, I only have a small freezer because I am in an apartment. I of course stock up on sale items and to save space to fit more into my teeny freezer I remove all the cardboard packaging on frozen foods and put them into freezer bags instead. You can tear off the end of the box and put it into the bag with the expiration date if you think you will forget what the item is. I can cram way more frozen sale stuff into the freezer!

    Posted 3 years ago by krazikat #

  2. Wow excellent idea Krazikat!!!! Off to buy more freezer bags, I really need more freezer room!!!!!!!

    Posted 3 years ago by 2bpurring #

  3. Awww, thanks so much for that, Julie! The best thing about this site is the sense of community, eh? That is why I came back after my lengthy "absence." I love how we all help each other...especially during difficult times. And, financially, these are difficult times! I like KK's advice, too.

    And another good "frugal" tip: Don't throw away any liquid from canned vegetables/tomatoes, etc. Collect it all in a large freezer container, and with the addition of your favorite herbs/spices, you have a nice vegetable broth for your next soup, stew, etc.

    Posted 3 years ago by Dee #

  4. Wow I'd never thought about that one Dee!!! I'm with you, what a great community!! I have so much to learn from everyone here!

    Posted 3 years ago by 2bpurring #

  5. In case anyone missed the three free tea samples. They are really great, right, Julie?
    http://www.yogitea.com/Pages/FreeSamples.html

    Posted 3 years ago by Dee #

  6. Printable coupon for free tire gauge from Buell motorcycles...bottom right of page. (not sure if this can be used for car tires...)
    http://www.buell.com/en_us/get-yours/special-offers/tire-gauge/#

    Posted 3 years ago by Dee #

  7. i had recently posted about saving on my blog, but forgot all about the samples! another site i like is startsampling.com! but if it helps, you can all read my post, and additions/suggestions are always welcome -

    http://khalistanikudiyenirmallovesnihangs.blogspot.com/2009/01/nirmal-singhs-very-basic-guide-to.html

    Posted 3 years ago by Nirmal #

  8. @DEE - i must warn you guys about that yogi tea...the compnay that makes it is run by a bunch of cult members who claim to be part of my religion (sikhism). they make all kinds of claims that their profets go to good causees, when in reality, their causes are going to help feul a terrorist group in india - because they are darlings of the corrupt government. the government has a love/hate relationship with real sikhs in India, and these ppl are helping add to the problem. Also, they do alot of other bad stuff.

    (here's the rundown, and i hope i removed any offensive language, apologies if i missed anything. also, i must explain that though i nor most sikhs do not hate any other religion, it is against our beliefs and shames our religion for these people to be incorperating falsified versions of hindu beleifs and some of the other things mentioned below in their acts. it even offends some of the hindu folks. Also, gori r female westerners, gora are male westerners. ) -

    3 H O Sikhs - most visible by their white outfits, and go by various prefixes like Shri, Hari, Aum/Om, Guru Deva ( often combining Hindu and Punjabi names out of ignorance) etc; often with names such as Amrit, Snatam, etc. (Though is not ALWAYS a sign, as some true Sikhs also have names such as Amrit. Look for other stereotypes and signs, especially as they will have limited association to Punjabi culture, unless to exploit and /or mock it, some even saying it has no connection to Sikhi.)
    What they do exploits both westerners and easterners by taking compromise of westerners' fickle, materialistic, ego driven vices and and using them to take advantage of and seem superior to the overly trusting easterners so as to lure and trap them to use them for their evil deceives. They indulge in the easterner's will until it is fully taken advantage of, and most often when it is too late. This is the case with both the 3ho cult and the goris who marry Desi, Asians, or Middle Eastern people, except with the romantic relations, it's done one a smaller ( one or a few people instead of a large community) yet equally destructive, false, and dangerous scale.
    They are what is called a cult - a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader. It was started by Yogi Bhajan but his real name is something else. He was a small time criminal until he was hired by the Indian government to start a cult and dress it up as Sikh cult to break the Khalistan movement up (divide and conquer) in 1960s, 1970s, 1980's, and beyond until his death. Anyway he converted a few thousand white (Gora) cult members who treat him as the their unofficial 11th Guru. He gave them Amrit but they don't keep all the 5 Ks or do 5 bani - the prayers everyday (which is mandatory) and they believe in and teach tantric yoga and other Hindu beliefs. They are considered a dangerous cult that is trying to change the Sikh religion into Hinduism by trying to become its leadership. During the 1980s they were very hostile and negative against the Khalistan movement for a independent Sikh state Khalistan (because they were & are funded secretly by the Indian government to break the Khalistan movement up (divide and conquer). They belong to the 'new age' movement - see here for more info - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age . (New age religions are basically fanatic groups, with ideas taken from mainstream religions, then transformed into groups with ideas which sounds like they were on drugs, going on about false spiritual philosophies, for example, how the auras of the body will transcend the soul to various places if you do this or that, or how you can achieve enlightenment by doing some really strange technique. These were stemmed by the hippie movements of the 60's, and were fueled by western stereotypical ideas of eastern religions.) They Also run the Miriri Piri academy - www.miripiriacademy.org/ . Obsessive especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing. (Please see these links - http://www.cultnews.com/?cat=2 , http://yogibhajan.tripod.com/id23.html , www.rickross.com/groups/3ho.html ), and www.goldentemple.com ( The 'product listing' for their line of false health food products, which they try to market if you purchase them they will change yourmind and spirit enlighten your chakra and bring you to a higher consciousness, etc.) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/X-3HO/ (It's currently mostly spam infested, but if you dig through the archives, may find some good people who can tell u about the bullscrap that has gone on.)

    http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=868&Itemid=11

    http://www.sarbloh.info/htmls/article_samparda_3ho.html

    http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/h/3ho/, http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?

    showtopic=4038, http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=17036&st=72,

    http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=17036,
    http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=KamallaRose&nav=start&prettyurl=%2FKamallaRose%2Fstart

    http://www.strippingthegurus.com/

    http://www.freewebs.com/carmenkaur/myblog.htm

    http://www.freewebs.com/carmenkaur/kundaliniyoga.htm

    'All forms of Yoga are based on an ancient science, starting in the east. Yoga means to "yoke" or "unite" in Sanskrit. Yoga has therefore been a way for the finite (human) to connect to the Finite (God) Its a way to connect with our higher self, and a realm beyond the physical body.

    It is believed, that in every body, dormant Kundalini energy lies in the base of the spine. There are 2 nerve channels at the central nerve of the spinal column. These are called the IDA (lunar, negative energy) and the PINGALA (solar, positive energy. Each of them make 2 and a half turns around the central column of the spine, called the sushmana, as they begin to spiral up the spine. These 2 nerve channels act as conductirs of Kundalini energy that feeds the entire nervous system.

    Through the practice of Kundalini Yoga, the trapped energy is stimulated and allowed to flow, reaching the skull, activating the secretion of the pineal gland. The pineal controls the nucleus projection of every cell in the body. To go into further detail, would be to describe the undescribable, Kundalini Yoga is all about experience.'

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrsikhnet/sets/

    http://www.jattworld.com/portal/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.phptopic_id=5644&forum=1#63928
    http://www.jattworld.com/portal/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5722&forum=1#67310
    http://www.jattworld.com/portal/modules/newbb_plus/archive.php?forum=1&topic_id=5960
    http://www.jattworld.com/portal/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5964&forum=5#67594
    http://www.jattworld.com/portal/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5964&forum=5#67597
    http://www.jattworld.com/portal/modules/newbb_plus/archive.php?forum=1&topic_id=5986
    http://www.jattworld.com/portal/modules/newbb_plus/archive.php?forum=1&topic_id=5968
    http://www.jattworld.com/portal/modules/newbb_plus/archive.php?forum=1&topic_id=5961

    http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/discussion.nsf/0/18CA88FE9B053C5587256A5B004F9273?OpenDocument

    http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/discussion.nsf/ca32680024ff68b487256a08007e86d8/B1266C3151128DB487256A53004B85DF!

    These two wank jobs -


    Guru Jaswant and Rajveer

    We are now called to the unavoidable questions regarding our faith and culture which stand before us : What has happened to the old - order Sikhs who unshakably stood up for morals and our culture, and who were wise enough to know the difference between Sikhs, and false people with ill intent? What has happened to the Sikhs, both young and old, who, at the mere mention of 3 H O, or of others who would claim they were Sikh, but who proved to be false in some form or another - would laugh at you gently, and say ' Don't take those people seriously, they are not really Sikh.' They would beautifully explain to you the difference between '3 H O' and other fraudulent groups, and true Sikhs, also noting how they had seen these people in bars, or with cigarettes in the Gurdwara, or doing other shameful things. These days those Sikhs are extremely rare, and have been all but become obsolete next to the new brand of 'Anything Goes' Sikhism - anyone who pretends to be pure Sikh, is heralded, many Sikhs who take Amrit for show, shouting their patriotism loudly, but not following through in action, battle the few old - breed Sikhs who are still not afraid to point out the frauds are chastised by this new order of Sikhs. The current form of Sikhism is being eaten by its own self created Frankenstein monster. Also, the 3 H O are known to befriend an Indian cult called 'Kookay' or 'Namdhari', with similar intent, though the Kookay don't take on the western styles of exploitation. They have their own anti Khalistani tactics, hell - bent on preventing Sikhs to have their own land of freedom from the terrors of the government, and others who try to destroy Sikhism. If our Sikhism DOES survive, thanks to the change in mind set and the trust in so many 'snake oil sellers' - the fakes who try to sell you purity, so that they can poison you and stab you in the back - it will be drastically changed and transformed into a very different, very false, dangerous, and self - destructive vehicle. We must work now to prevent this!

    Then, last but not least, we have....
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=clnk&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2F64.233.169.104%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3AUOMj-P-E8EQJ%Awww.mrsikhnet.com%2F2005%2F09%2Fhow-to-tie-turban-video-tutorials.html%2BThere%2Bis%2Bonly%2BSikhNet%2Blogos%2C%2Band%2Ba%2B%2522Donate%2Bto%2BSikhNet%2522%2Bbox.%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26cd%3D1%26gl%3Dus&ei=_QNPSLSrJajMedzJlcYC&usg=AFQjCNHTLrsgDgtuTuqQhEgPdWFftnNlxw&sig2=5JhDFHav-djh9otG_Frs1Q

    1. Anonymous posted at 9/20/2005 - 10:52:30 PM
    Gurumustuk Singh ji,

    Waheguru ji ka khalsa,
    Waheguru ji ki fateh!

    This is a humble request. I can see on the page on SikhNet you have taken videos from
    SikhiFM/EktaOne website. However, there is no recognition of their work, and there is no "Donate to
    EktaOne" box. There is only SikhNet logos, and a "Donate to SikhNet" box. This seems unfair and not
    very chardi kala. Please kindly give recognition, and put a "Donate to EktaOne" box. Thanks.
    Waheguru ji ka khalsa,Waheguru ji ki fateh!

    2. Gurumustuk Singh posted at 9/20/2005 11:08:56 PM
    Waheguru ji ka khalsa,
    Waheguru ji ki fateh!

    Anonymous:

    If you play the videos it is obvious that it is from SikhiFM.com. I am not taking credit for those
    videos. I am merely trying to make them more accessable to people. The donation link is there to
    allow people to support the bandwidth and hosting costs for SikhNet. You can see that the videos are
    hosted on our servers so do not pose any costs to Ektaone. Anyone can download the videos off of
    SikhNet and post them on their own websites. The intention is to educate people and get these
    materials out there. It would be great if Ektaone downloaded and added all the videos that are now
    on SikhNet and would make more options for peole. They could put a donation link there to support
    Ektaone too. I have no issue with that. Seriously... I'm not trying to steal anyone's thunder. I
    really am just trying to help. If you are part of Ektaone we can discuss via email further if this
    is not agreeable to you.

    1.Gurumustuk Singh veerjee I think you should at least put some mention of EktaOne on the webpage
    there - such as "This video is from www.EktaOne.com" for example. vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa
    vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!

    2. Gurumustuk Singh posted at 9/21/2005 12:31:58 PM

    Kulpreet: as I mentioned in my previous comment, I don't think this is necessary. If someone watches
    the video it is clear that it is by SikhiFM.com which goes to EktaOne. You can see the web address
    quite clear. The prime purpose for the videos is education not promotional purposes. I know some of
    the people who created these videos for SikhiFM...so I am not doing this in a vacuum. If they feel I
    am doing something wrong they would tell me. Are you one of the Sevadhars at EktaOne? I'm just
    curious why you are so insistant on this.

    1. xSHANTIx (aka)http://gdkaur.blogspot.com/ (This was the Gori kaur who argued with me over how
    important Punjab/Desi heritage is to Sikhi. She feels it has no importance, her real name is Carmen,
    and she is also 3 H O. ) posted at 9/21/2005 01:07:28 PM
    dear cyber sangat...please stop judging others...Gurumustuk Ji was carrying out very valuable
    seva...many of us needed a site like this and i think hes done an amazing job..also the videos from
    ektaone and sikhifm clearly have their websites advertised on the video clips so what is the
    problem? ALSO whats wrong with sharing!!!! Where is your universal spirit...im sure ektaone will be
    glad that more people are seeing their work! remeber Guruji is the true Judge....whoever ties
    dhumulla..for whatever their reason is personal to what they are projecting in the world....its
    their choice. eeeee also Gurumustuk....i cant wait for your mothers new album, the sound clip on one
    of the clips sounds amazing

    http://www.mrsikhnet.com/videos/wmv/espanola%20sikh%20girls%20punjabi%20dance.wmv

    Check out this freaky 3 H 0 attempt at doing a ghidda session. They r all in white, with a huge
    photo of Yogi Bhajan. BTW -side note, they not only have stolen some videos without credit, but
    steal other information from the other, TRULY CREDIBLE Sikhi sites for sikhnet.com....right down to
    the name (think sikh.net).

    http://www.mrsikhnet.com/videos/wmv/espanola%20sikh%20girls%20punjabi%20dance.wmv

    'Every year we have a big birthday celebration for Siri Singh Sahib Harbhajan Singh Khalsa (Yogi
    Bhajan). Many guests, friends, family, etc come to this party to celebrate with each other. Every
    year there are different types of entertainment, however one of the constants is having a show of
    Punjabi Dance. Here is a video clip of some of the local Espanola Sikh women doing a few different
    dances in Aug 2002. Ravi Kaur of the Bhangra Troupe "Izzat De Punjab" does some great choreography. She is the one that organizes and gets everyone together to have fun and practice these dances.'

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mrsikhnet.com/uploaded_images/turb2-

    713227.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mrsikhnet.com/2005/09/how-to-tie-turban-video-
    tutorials.html&h=200&w=200&sz=6&hl=en&sig2=_AiC5mIO4UQi9t1T66Y_nQ&start=29&um=1&tbnid=dtYXlpvbFHjt4M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=104&ei=9BwQRtHQJoWqhQSsrJG2CA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddeh%2Bshiva%2Bbar%2Bmohe%2B%26start%3D18%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

    and real sikhs dont do this -

    <img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 640px; height: 427px;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/hello/48/6622/640/DCP_4443.jpg" border="0" alt="" />

    and see this -

    http://www.religion-cults.com/Cults/Eastern/cults.htm#3ho

    or bullshit like this - http://gurusantsinghkhalsa.com/ people who deem themself as high as God itself. if you really are that hgh, you would not be preaching yourself and showing urself off in this way. it would show through pure actions, not ego.

    www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=868&Itemid=11

    www.factnet.org/cults/3ho/index.html

    www.icsahome.com/infoserv_grp/grp_3ho.asp

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20080910040233AABff3E

    What do you know about the strange 3HO Cult?
    Someone I once knew was in the 3HO cult, but got very angry when I started asking questions about it. They are very bizarre: they are Americans who wear turbans and grow long beards, and they wear all white clothing. They worship a man called Yogi Bhajan, who is their guru. I wish I could ask this person more, but he got very mad at me "when I asked too much" - I guess they didn't want me to find out what went on inside the cult.

    Help! I'm scared for my friend! He seems so strange. He's shoved his friends and family away. They've totally cut him off. They make him do all this unpaid work, and he is supposed to pay the cult a ton of money every month as a "tithe.". His year-round house is a tent in New Mexico. He, and other followers camp outside the temple. He has almost no food or any kind of a life - he has to beg the temple kitchen to throw him some leftover food, and some days he doesn't eat. This cult has stolen his life and his dignity! Help!

    Does anyone know anything about this terrible cult??!?

    * 3 months ago

    Additional Details

    3 months ago
    Pangel - yes I know, there's the yoga part of it, but that's just one side of it. I've even done the yoga classes, and they were OK, but there is a different side of it once you get pulled WAY in - you are in a different ballgame. You have to dress like them, believe and worship like them, hand over your money, change your name.... etc.... ... usual cult stuff. The yoga part is just what you see on the outer periphery - the inner part of it is very controlling and dark!

    And I'm not just over-reacting. How insensitive. I've seen people's lives ruined by 3HO, and my friend has given up his life, all his potential, and is having his soul sucked out of him!

    http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/kundalini-yoga/203989-3ho-cult.html

    the gori 'sicks' try to bully anyone who tries to speak against the cult. isn't that somethng? this is common on any eastern relions/yoga/sikhism/etc. forum that mentions them. if u have nothing to hide, why be so defensive?

    http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,62197,63011

    Over the past months I have tried to post my logical, practical, non-hateful, non-offensive opinion on the way 3ho Sikhs are confusing our youth and how their teachings deviate from Sikhism.. My goal was to modestly inform the Sikh youth and public through the internet about how our youth are being greatly confused and taken away from their families. Through meeting people, listening to television shows, radio broadcasts, reading a wide range of information, using 3ho services, listening from their prayer tracks, purchasing their CDs, seeing information and learning their form of Sikhism and seeing regular Sikh I have definitely learned something. Our religion is going through one of the greatest changes any religion has ever experienced. Instead of moving forward we are moving into a mystic, counterproductive experience of Sikhism. I first thought that only a few Sikhs would be affected by this misinformation. However I have found that thousands of Sikhs and Sikh children are becoming confused in some way to some degree.

    I have posted on websites like www.sikhnet.com, www.sikhsangat.com and I have not been allowed on these websites to post because I simply stated my view. Also I would like to inform you that the most popular website for Sikhs, www.sikhnet.com, is based at Espanola, New Mexico and always supports a 3HO Sikh agenda. On the webmaster’s blog www.mrsikhnet.com he even tried to tell the Sikh public that we are forgetting that Yoga was once part of our religion. Because his blog is so popular I posted my opinion only to find it deleted and I was permanently banned from the website. Their efforts are becoming successful and many mainstream Sikhs are falling into their net.

    In the book titled “Sikh Identity” by Opinderjit Kaur the author explains how the 3HO lifestyle deviates from the Sikh teachings. Also she explains that the Sikh head SGPC president Tohra stated in a news report that Yogi Bhajan was never given the title of Sri Singh Sahib, the Sikh leader of the Western hemisphere. He also stated that there is no such title as the Sikh leader of the Western hemisphere. There are many teachings from 3HO which deviate from the Sikh way of life. First, Yoga is made compulsory, and the quest for enlightenment is encouraged. 3HO even teaches in books like “Yoga for Business Success” by Darshan Singh Khalsa that one can obtain spiritual powers from doing Kundalini Yoga. In the Sikh scripture is states “Inhaling, exhaling and holding the breath by the force of the mind – by empty hypocritical practices, Dharmic love for the Lord is not produced. Only through Word of the Guru’s Shabad is the sublime, supreme, essence obtained.” (Page 1043 of Guru Granth). Infact there are many quotes which support this argument. This organization is like many others which often use the Sikh holy book to encourage doing Yoga, or Meditation to attain enlightenment. In this case, enlightenment means continuously seeing and hearing inner light and sound. This is obviously not possible to any degree, and though meditation can give peace and alertness is cannot make you see continuous white or yellow light as these groups claim. Specifically Sant Mat which was once infamously known in the Punjab (area where Sikhs live in India) as the Rhadasoami group has claimed that they can show people inner light and they have confused many people and may have even ruined lives. For information on this cult go to (www.knowthyselfassoul.org) and www.ruhanisatsangusa.org.

    Other practices of 3HO are also notable. In the Yogi Bhajan lecture archive on www.sikhnet.com Mr. Bhajan would encourage people to give offerings like Pizzas to Guru Ram Das. Many 3HO members admit that they worship Guru Ram Das by giving him objects and this has never been a form of worship in Sikhism. Sikhs have only worshipped God. Also 3HO encourages people to become strict vegetarians in order to save “Karma”, and to wear only white in order to be holy. As long as there has been Sikhism Sikhs did not have to wear only white in order to follow their religion. In Sikhism the singing of religious hymns is suppose to be done using traditional instruments. 3HO members like Snatam Kaur (www.snatamkaur .com) and Guru Ganesha (http://www.a-healing.com/gugasi.html) say things like “I give my heart to you Guru Ram Das.” and consistently focus their music on this particular Guru. However there were 10 human Gurus who were all equal and one holy scripture which by title is considered a Guru as well. The holy scripture for the Sikhs the Guru Granth Sahib holds the title as the current Guru of the Sikhs as it holds the teachings from all ten of the Sikh Gurus.

    Also 3HO has introduced new mantras which have never been part of Sikhism, or even Hinduism. When I ask many people from India whose Grandparent’s where Sikhs they have never even heard of these mantras. When Snatam Kaur does her worldwide tours she comes to Sikh Gurdwaras and instructs the audience to chant these mantras instead of chanting the normal Waheguru which is the only mantra that Sikhs chant.

    I think that this information is important for people to know because many Sikhs and other people are being taken away from their families because of organization like these. Some people are learning about Sikhism and converting to “Sikhism” after being Kundalini Yoga teachers when Sikhism is not associated with Yoga is any way. So many innocent, Americans, Canadians, and Sikhs are becoming confused and following teachings which are not what they claim to be.
    You can learn a lot about Sikh Dharma of the Western Hemisphere (the teachings which deviate from original Sikhism) from Google Books search for the book Identity of Sikhism, pages 158-177). Most of these pages are available online at Google Books. Also note that Power Broker magazine has counted Bhajan among 'New Mexico's Top 100' influential business people. An excerpt of the article is available on page 160. Also in a lecture on www.mrsikhnet.com’s audio archive by Mr. Bhajan he explains specific details of the tenth Sikh Guru. The real details which he describe are actually unknown and cannot be confirmed. Yet “Yogi” Bhajan described the Guru’s height, diet, and stated that he could spin a sword around so fast that no arrow could hit him. This is actually true and can be found in the audio archive on www.mrsikhnet.com
    In conclusion, 3HO is confusing our youth and altering our religion. From this website I have become educated on the true facts of Yogi Bhajan which I wish many Sikhs knew. He told a women from his yoga class (http://www.rickross.com/reference/3ho/3ho83.html) “In fact, the sex was never presented or regarded as a part of any religion or religious experience. It was only later, when I asked him to reconcile his role as a professed, celibate religious leader with the fact he was having sex with more than one woman, that he put a religious gloss on the sex. He said he was actually living three lives in one, and that I was his spiritual wife in one of the lives..” Many Sikhs have believed Yogi Bhajan to ba a Siri Singh Sahib of their religion. This is the like one rank below the Head of the religion the Jathedar. To help one further understand this rank may be seen as the equivalent of a Archbishop in Christianity who is seen as below the Pope. When I learnt of this scandal I became really shocked and upset. I felt this way because Mr. Bhajan claimed to have such a high rank in our religion and so many people believed in. When in reality he had taken part in scandals which would have never allowed him to receive this religious title in reality. The title “Sri Singh Sahib” is a real religious title which some have earned authentically for example Prof. Darshan Singh.

    Also I strongly feel that though Yogi Bhajan has died the 3HO cult is still active and affecting Americans, Canadians and Sikhs throughout the world. One can practice their beliefs but they should have their own distinctive name. This way people would not be confused as they are currently still claiming Bhajan’s teachings that they are following are the original form of Sikhism though they do not comply with the original Sikhism.

    this girl also was a fromer 3ho, but has woke up from the horror, and have a great blog about it -

    http://indiakids.blogspot.com/

    www.religionnewsblog.com/category/3ho

    http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/66.html

    http://www.curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=969334

    curezone.biz/blogs/fm.asp?i=969335

    yoga.meetup.com/459/messages/archive/

    http://books.google.com/books?id=aqmbnfXCzn0C&pg=PA160&lpg=PA160&dq=3ho+cult&source=web&ots=9V_ghl9J9l&sig=i5aa3MSqmtl6cvsXjmyiQ_SJ_6s&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result#PPA118,M1

    www.panthic.org/news/123/ARTICLE/2410/2006-04-23.html

    These are good steps Prabhsharandeep Singh indicated, but questioned why more was not being done in isolating those who continue to support Kala-Afghana and the Spokesman editor. He also questioned why the Jathedars attended a function organized by the 3HO, which he stated was as a cult. "During the function, which was broadcast by SikhNet, Jathedar Sahib referred to Yogi Bhajan as 'Sri Singh Sahib'", Prabhsharandeep Singh strongly protested. "How can the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takhat Sahib refer to anyone with that title? There is no precedence of it in Sikh history for anyone having such a title" he later added. Not expecting this line of questioning, the Jathedars were taken aback. Out of embarrassment Jathedar Vendati kept his head lowered when questioned.

    www.csj.org/infoserv_groups/co_ae.htm

    http://www.sikhsangat.com/lofiversion/index.php/t13378-100.html

    one of the 3ho's and some supporters try to spread bullshit...

    www.theologyweb.com/campus/archive/index.php/t-10658.html

    www.orthodoxphotos.com/readings/future/tantric.shtml

    http://books.google.com/books?id=nHMQrhbpEz0C&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=3ho+cult&source=web&ots=00QVV8AlI2&sig=3idHGNW4r72aIvoO_KJVMFV-I_0&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result

    forum.wingmakers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8

    www.surrealist.org/links/oldfiles/3ho.html

    www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Talk:3HO

    http://yogiblog.destinymanifestation.com/wordpressmu/

    www.orange-papers.org/orange-cult_q1.html

    http://books.google.com/books?id=vnAk9WefhfwC&pg=PA442&lpg=PA442&dq=3ho+cult&source=web&ots=Od92Xgt7pZ&sig=GuNpblIWGmds_HCw9DrAROGDpx8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

    www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1004361/posts

    www.strippingthegurus.com/stgsamplechapters/bibliography.asp

    www.holysmoke.org/cos/observer-beyond-belief.htm

    there's this guy who claims to be pure punjabi sikh...he's another gora, married to a gori, and you can see large amounts of hindu om signs in his pictures...also both he and his wife dress in the 3ho style.

    http://images.orkut.com/orkut/albums3/ATgAAACRvlvYC-Ci54z73714dwOimKIuUm1wZrhd6grcFfEApvYj-eXjfQY--15Z1shZMRsvE0O4sdEzjVUkLy7ZAp4GAJtU9VDUSjd751htvgt6KFKnPHG5QdnFIA.jpg

    http://images.orkut.com/orkut/albums/ATgAAABYykHvTaL-D56W3xW115B4AetPipHPWWjOO9U7HSgmV2RS3ubIh2xFrImHlcH5SBaGlYRuTlvvVQwJaTAnoEV3AJtU9VCeuJIP1LCA5GBEc-TBphi3N9unrw.jpg

    http://images.orkut.com/orkut/albums3/ATgAAABY_CdfuywkicJ66HkhKiJgMKa79qQwwMP0BABCqzpAMxZpy82SYysp7GNH5LGXd1TRWgePBrYespPkCcbKP5F1AJtU9VDNBcwBCWGsqvDQ0x7SBFz3ypYmww.jpg

    http://images.orkut.com/orkut/albums/ATgAAAC5hHrZ_TNqMM-Iq-3VMRr8YJNLTKZgyzLnjS5O51sG5N-f6y1w9HLN9_RdNtG0rz4k8_bsm7KkQ2VHH3mJdZqcAJtU9VDFlb6e2iZ62IGwrCV1IgRt5rwzDA.jpg

    he heads up these websites - http://consejokhalsa.blogspot.com and http://sikhdharmabhaibandi.blogspot.com/ with which he tries to pretend he is pure and pro khalistan. he spams alot of people with them, and is trying to play tricks on real sikhs who may have been too wise to not fall for other common 3ho tactics. some of his friends are also connected to the frauds kelly 'jasleen' kaur and mai harinder kaur.

    https://barcelona.indymedia.org/es/2006/07/26992.shtml

    www.creedopedia.com/topics/Cult

    http://www.enlightenmefree.com/phpbb3/phpBB-2.0.22/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=290&sid=a56a9f6ad22403a445f260b5715b2392

    www.surrealist.org/links/guestbook5.html

    http://forums.panthic.net/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=23&t=14532

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult-Proofing_Your_Kids

    www.britneygroupie.com/2006/02/26/has-britney-spears-stumbled-into-another-“cult”/

    https://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8199&p

    http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=325712

    www.culticstudiesreview.org/csr_bkreviews/bkrev_cultaroundthecorner.htm

    www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=99205970

    www.neuereligion.de/ENG/ReligiousNature/03.htm

    www.geftakysassembly.com/Reflections/SiteMap2.htm

    www.1mall.com/ODP/Society/Religion_and_Spirituality/Opposing_Views/Yoga/

    www.southasianconnection.com/articles/159/1/Sikh-Priest-Serve-As-Saint-And-Soldier-For-Jesus-Christ/Page1.html

    guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2008/08/song-with-some-sour-notes.html

    kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/801b497a-8bc5-4dc3-9423-7b7578c399ca

    http://books.google.com/books?id=ziUMK-0C89MC&pg=PA182&lpg=PA182&dq=3ho+cult&source=web&ots=kAE7C-95WL&sig=X-fF8E5nXLDuKibrV1qM5wMuLBs&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result

    interesting...

    http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/sects.asp

    http://monkeyfilter.com/link.php/4675

    http://www.thebereancall.org/node/6014

    frontlinepunjabiyouth.blogspot.com/2007/12/real-akj-attitude.html

    health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Sri_Chinmoy_Survivors/messages/101?viscount=10

    www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=6497

    www.fairfieldweekly.com/article.cfm?aid=8485

    community.beliefnet.com/index.php?page_id=24&tgt=1228263845 -

    www.flameout.org/flameout/gurus/bhajan.html

    http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/0a9ec78c-f3de-41b1-a046-6bc77397f4c9

    lol - see 'fifi' -

    Rick Ross manipulates information and makes money off of so-called "cult busting." His list of "frauds" includes many of the world's most highly respected yoga teachers. Yogi Bhajan was human for sure, and it's wise to question what you hear and read, but question it from all ways. Rick Ross is not at all an unbiased source of information, nor an accurate one.

    Yea, right.....sounds like we have another sucker in the making! it's not just rick ross sweety.....it's incredible how many e 3ho-ers there are, and even when panthic.org mentions it being a cult and yogi bhajan being a fraud, you're a bit outnumbered!

    http://www.panthic.org/discussion.php?id=2410

    http://www.strippingthegurus.com/stgsamplechapters/bhajan.asp

    http://home.sprintmail.com/~angelman24/Armageddon4.html

    http://byeliseabramsmiller.blogspot.com/2007/11/david-duchovny-saved-my-life-v.html

    ooh, interesting...here comes gurumustuk himself trying to defend the gang.....awwwww sucha defensive lad, what are u hiding?!

    religionexplorer.com/cgi-bin/web.pl?terms=bhajan&page=0&site=1720

    guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2008_08_01_archive.html

    http://www.rickross.com/reference/3ho/Feltcomplaint.pdf

    http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Gna_vytx7tEJ:www.myprimetime.com/play/self/content/yogi1213/index.shtml+gurmukh+kaur+khalsa+speed&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=us

    http://www.ex-premie.org/papers/kirpal_statistic.htm

    http://www.ckjatha.com

    http://www.kriteachings.org/

    http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,57279

    these creatures even make a mockery of punjabis -

    http://www.mrsikhnet.com/2005/07/this-dance-was-pretty-funny.html

    and the male equivalent -

    http://www.mrsikhnet.com/2005/07/gora-sikh-punjabi-mundayo-dressed-and.html

    so basically, the yogi tea may tatse good, but you're better off going to the stash website and ordering theirs. it tatses better to me, and as far as i know, doesn't help support any bullcrap. :)

    Posted 3 years ago by Nirmal #

  9. it's basically a buyer beware. also, they appear to be so worldy and accepting, but it's also a front to recruit ppl into their web. my husband and our friend went to one of these ppl's houses, and they were offered a cup of water. my husband told me, the 3ho family drank out of fine china, and my husband and our friend were given a paper cup. both my hubby and our friend also told me they seemed very strange when they talked to them. and whilst i do believe that 'not all people are like that', this group IS meant to be like that. they were brainwashed and their gang of wierdos started in the late 60's. they are now all over the world, and their products, as well as their purity act have been suckering in many people for a long time.

    Posted 3 years ago by Nirmal #

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  14. Patti thanks for the info.,..boy you have done your research on this group...
    Dee, I can't wait to try the Ensure, I've heard it really makes you feel better.
    I didn't get by the store last night to get my Benefiber, but I'm going on the way home from work!! Dee did you get your sample of it???

    Posted 3 years ago by 2bpurring #

  15. Yes...I have not tried it yet, though. Did you get the flavored packet, too?
    Did you get the Cascadian Farms granola bar? They were really good...I am using the dollar off coupon to pick up a box. And you got the champagne stopper a while back, right?

    Posted 3 years ago by Dee #

  16. 2bp, why do you want to drink Ensure? I guess that I am just so used to using it in nursing with patients that can't get in enough calories, that I associate it with being ill. Have you ever tasted it? *gag*

    Posted 3 years ago by WillowandWindismom #

  17. @2b...yeahp i have. i had to because these people are shaming my religion...and helping to ruin and mislead others....esepcially indians. I probably mentioned about 'khalistan' in there, it's a thoeretical state sikhs r trying to create so they can gain freedom from harrassment, especially because the dominant hindus and the government have a love-hate relationship with tghem, and have caused many problems. these ppl who make the yogi tea are connected to this, and get funding from the corrupt government because they are trying to mislead sikhs who want to have their freedom, and become subservient. there many siksh who murdered, or simply harrassed, because they are alive and because they won't bow down to these people. the guy they name on the tea, yogi bhajan was hired to create this cult because they knew westerners had such an infleunce on others, and many would easily believe them. Unfortunately, unkowingly, anyone who buys their teas, or who helps support any of their products helps add to the damamge they cause. i really wih thee was a way to put an end to their cult. and they don't want to become actual sikhs....in fact, those who once were part of their group, and left had faced severe trouble - they got death threats, much harrassment, etc. i have mentioned about how some of these ppl told their stories. there are a few who left and became normal followers of he actual faith. i had copied and pasted that whole thing from my blog on western exploitation of the east and how it affects both western and eastern cultures.

    Posted 3 years ago by Nirmal #

  18. btw som1 mentioned the bearly naked granola...i love heir blueberry walnut stuff. im addicted to it!

    Posted 3 years ago by Nirmal #

  19. Calories?????? Yikes...that's not how they advertise it!!!!! Thanks WWM, I'll give it to Ron...LOL
    Dee, I sort of got the granola bar...actually Ron got it...I'm am told it was very, very good.... As far as the Benefiber, I got the clear and tasteless. and you really can't see or taste it at all, but I could sure feel the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted 3 years ago by 2bpurring #

  20. oooo i gotta try that granola bar, calories dont scare me :) if it tastes reallllllyy good.....i'll just dance a little MORE bhangra than usual hehee

    Posted 3 years ago by Nirmal #

  21. LOL..Patti..I really need to watch the calories, but if I'm going to get more than I need it will be with something that tastes good, like the Jello Pudding!!!

    Posted 3 years ago by 2bpurring #

  22. ill tell u what...ill help u watch the calories...u give me the calories, and ill take very good care of them for you :)

    Posted 3 years ago by Nirmal #

  23. Wow, I don't believe I've ever had a better offer Patti!!! You got a deal. LOL
    BTW I'll be going to Olive Garden for dinner so I'll have plenty of calories to send to you later.

    Posted 3 years ago by 2bpurring #

  24. I LOVE the salad at Olive Garden...it is always so fresh and the dressing is delicious!

    Posted 3 years ago by Dee #

  25. I love the chicken and pasta and the bread sticks..Why oh why can't I love salad as much as pasta??

    Posted 3 years ago by 2bpurring #

  26. I love it all, too, J...you are not alone...And tiramisu for dessert!

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  28. yummm! sounds good to me! yea....i love salads, but they're naked without the dressing, and goodies...the entire meat station, cheese, olives, croutons, and whatever else i can feasbale put in there. :) mmm tiramisu!

    Posted 3 years ago by Nirmal #

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