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Saw another lawyer

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  1. And I think I will be hiring him when I have the money to do so. Very nice, even had me laughing at one point, which is incredible given the circumstances and my personality. His retainer is only 2/3 of my net monthly pay instead of all of it. Have frozen one of my credit cards and will be directing money that becomes available as medical bills are paid off into a legal account. Think I'll open a savings account at a different bank than the one we use and put the money into that so I can draw some interest.

    This lawyer also said that an annulment is unlikely to be granted because neither of us was legally incompetent at the time. Seems that just having a psych illness isn't enough, and Mr. L. didn't even qualify for a diagnosis of mental retardation. Agreed with most of what the first lawyer said. Advised me to move out rather than trying to oust Mr. L., and told me not to sign another lease on which Mr. L. is included. Said to call him (after calling the police) if Mr. L. physically assaults me again and we would go before a judge for a temporary protective order (these typically last 1 year). Cost of that would be included in cost of divorce.

    Mr. L. and I went to see his sometime therapist last Friday, at my insistence. I was asked to come in for about the last 15 min so she could get my perspective directly from me. Told her that I expect Mr. L. to see her at least once a month, cooperate with the doctor at the mental health agency (has yet to do that; cancelled appt. again and it's rescheduled for end of July), and has to move the TV to the extra bedroom. Told her this is the last chance for him and me to develop a relationship, and that if it didn't work, I would end the marriage. Not optimistic that this is going to work, but at least the time it will take me to get the legal money together will give it a chance. I will have given him every chance then.

    Posted 2 years ago by Leeny #

  2. Leeny, my prayers and continued comfort are with you. It sounds like this lady is doing well by you. I hope that it all works out for you, in whatever happens from here. My love and support are with you. (hugs)

    Posted 2 years ago by Lynn from PA 6/8 #

  3. I'm happy to hear that you found an attorney you like who doesn't charge as much as the first one. I hope you don't have to delay things very long to hire him and move forward. I truly believe you've done everything and more to make your marriage work. I admire your strength! {{{hugs}}}

    Posted 2 years ago by Kitten Whisperer #

  4. Good to hear that you found a lawyer. I have a feeling you will need one with this divorce. Leeny you deserve to have happiness and safety in your life. I am sorry to hear that you have to be the one to move, but if it helps you in the long run than it is worth it. Continued prayers for you Leeny.

    Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

  5. (((Leeny)))
    You are in my thoughts and prayers. I am so proud of you for wanting a better life.

    Posted 2 years ago by cricketsmama #

  6. Leeny, I so admire your strength and determination-you truly deserve a safe and happy life, and I know you will achieve it. You are always in my prayers.

    Posted 2 years ago by rainingwolf #

  7. [[[[[Leeny]]]]]

    Posted 2 years ago by Buttercup #

  8. You are well overdue for some good karma and a good life for yourself. I'm glad you're on that path now. Stay strong and forward looking - we're there behind you - feel that warmth on your back? That's TDK energy pushing you along and supporting you.

    Posted 2 years ago by KapitiKats in NZ #

  9. ((((Leeny))))

    Posted 2 years ago by tinafishfrombirthplaceofElvis #

  10. {{{Leeny}}} I'm so glad you've found a lawyer you can trust. You deserve a good and happy life, we're all beside and behind you, as KK says.

    Posted 2 years ago by jcat #

  11. That is good news Leeny. Trying to fix or conclude a long term relationship is a huge emotional drain, I have been through it. In looking back I think the emotional overload makes it possible to break the ties and move away. It is so exhausting Leeny. You have my ongoing prayers and encouragement.{{{Leeny}}}

    Posted 2 years ago by krazikat #

  12. Leeny,

    I know you feel you have failed but it takes two to tango. Mr Leeny did not hold up his end of the bargan. To boot he has shown his spots by violence and failure to assist in his own well-being.

    The rule should be that you get to hit me twice... the first time and the last time (a simultaneous event).

    You earlier came to the conclusion that it was past time to end this. Do not back down just because you have to skrimp to get funds to get out. If Mr Leeny follows your rules to move into his room as an apartment separate you still have shared living space. At the very least a kitchen and entrances and exits. He will just use the time to prey on your sympathiies and try to secure your promise not to give up.

    I'd move....Well, I would not move I'd change the locks and put his shoes and saddle on the porch. In any case you need to finalize some sort of real separation. When is your lease up? If you move then he cannot hold you to the lease if you do not sign and let the Landlord know you will not be party to the lease.

    You are not being mean or unreasonable in protecting yourself this way. Mr. Leeny will have to fend for himself sooner or later in this process. If he is sharp enough to manipulate someone to be his caretaker for years, he will be able to land on his feet if he so chooses. If he chooses to fail to try to make you come back through guilt or compassion, you need to let him fail.

    Your situation is not safe. We do not want to hear that you have become another statistic of domestic violence.

    Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #

  13. The lease is up in October, AM. I'm going to talk to my landlord about renting another one of his properties. If necessary, I'll buy a camp cot at Wal-Mart (air beds don't last long in the presence of claws) and a bunch of cardboard scratch pads, transfer water and electric service, and take the cats and myself to live there. My home's been so trashed I don't have the strength to straighten it out.

    Posted 2 years ago by Leeny #

  14. Discretely start packing. Make lists of what you have and evaluate by keep, sell, abandon/toss. If you can get plastic bins you can pack and stack them in a closet, and just keep telling him you are cleaning house (you are) and are just sorting stuff for storage. This will give you time to get pared down to the essentials for daily life and have everything else ready to move at a minutes notice.
    Then on the day you have your new digs available you can send him to a day at the movies treat and disappear while he is gone for the day.

    Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #

  15. Leeny...I haven't posted much on your situation & what your being put thru, but do want you to know you aren't alone. This year w/non-helper marked 26 yrs. together. I can't tell you how much I truly understand the push-pull tug-of-war that your emotions are going thru. Like KraziKat said...it is so overwhelmingly exhausting.
    Altho I'm in full swing emotional turmoil at the moment (especially w/my sister back in the hospital & being so far from her),I can tell you that once you can get past the point where Mr.L can no longer manipulate or coerce you into staying....You'll clearly know your on the right path & going in the right direction.

    I'm sending Prayers of strength to you & continue to keep you in my thoughts. Just remember...TDK is a very strong force of Love & Support & will be here for you! {{{HUGS}}}

    Posted 2 years ago by feral #

  16. It is a shame the Feral, Leeny and Daisy don't live near each other. You all could combine forces and resources. At least you are gathered here and can support each other.

    Posted 2 years ago by KYKAT 12 23 #

  17. You read my mind KYKAT! :)

    Posted 2 years ago by feral #

  18. Oh {{{Leeny}}}! I pray things will work out for you!

    Posted 2 years ago by katthays #

  19. A couple of questions that have been nagging at me:

    If by a divine miracle, and I do believe those can happen, Mr. L. does shape up through medication and therapy, and I decide to stay married to him, will TDKers still love me?

    Do the Catholic TDKers think I'm horrible for getting a divorce and for having though about committing suicide in the past? (That, by the way, is an important change. For several months now, I've had no inclination whatsoever to end my own life. I've been having those types of thoughts and impulses since I was 11 years old, and they are now clean gone. I know that could only have come about through prayer, and a lot of that prayer came from TDK.)

    Posted 2 years ago by Leeny #

  20. {{{{{Leeny}}}}}

    TDK will *always* love you. You are part of our family, and we love and support each other. We might worry about you, but we will love you no matter what.

    I can't answer the other part of your question, except to say that I'm so glad to hear you say you've stopped wanting to hurt yourself.

    Posted 2 years ago by Kilroy #

  21. Leeny, you will always be loved and wanted here on TDK.
    I am not catholic, but I can say, how can you be horrible for wanting a better life and to get away from hurt? I cannot see anyone wanting you to stay in a situation where your life is in danger. I think it's wonderful you have not had any suicidal thoughts in the recent months. That just shows you are on the right path!

    Posted 2 years ago by cricketsmama #

  22. Leeny, I think about you and your situation often. I hope this new lawyer can really help you. I can't add much advise to what others have said. Just know that I am praying for you. {{Leeny}}

    Posted 2 years ago by NNGM #

  23. Oh Leeny !! Of course we will still love you!! Please, put that thought to rest. Friends love friends whether they agree or disagree with what they are doing. If my friends stopped loving me for doing things they don't agree with, I'd have NO friends at all!!!

    Super big hugs to you my dear !!!

    I'm not Catholic and cannot address that part of your question. As for my opinion on your getting a divorce - been there done that - twice. Both times it was absolutely the right thing to do.

    Posted 2 years ago by 2 Popoki #

  24. Leeny I'm so happy to hear that the thoughts of self harm have left,they are such a burden aren't they? I just want you to be happy and safe and will love you no matter what.[[[[Leeny]]]

    Posted 2 years ago by Buttercup #

  25. Leeny, although I am now Lutheran by choice, for nearly 40 years I was a Catholic. And this is what my priest said when I wanted to divorce my first husband. "God wants happiness for his children. He would never expect you to stay in a hurtful or dangerous situation. If you don't qualify for an annulment, get the divorce, and go be happy and find love again." Now that was not what the Pope would say, but I think the priests are more knowledgeable about the world and its realities.
    As for not loving you--silly! Of course we will always love you, whatever your choices. We may worry, but would always respect your right to live the life you choose.
    I am so glad those thoughts of hurting yourself are gone-your determination to stick with the program of medication and therapy are fantastic. I so admire your strength.

    Posted 2 years ago by rainingwolf #

  26. Any Priest worth even 1/2 his salt would advise you that in your described situation you would be granted and ecclesiastic annulment and that getting a civil divorce is just the secular legalities you need to separate the property and other things the lawyers like to think they dictate.

    As for the dream of Mr Leeny shaping up....Honey, that is just a dream. While I believe in miracles, leopards do not change their spots. Just because you would like a leopard to transform into a house cat, well....

    It is your choice. I will not cease to be a friend if you choose to stay. I will just have to let you follow your path and only comment posts unrelated to your marriage. Particularly any that might tempt the "I told you so" reflex.

    Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #

  27. Hi Leeny, I am new here but reading through this thread I can understand that you have been in a long term draining situation. It's obvious to me that you have struggled to stay strong and are succeeding, so please stay on the path. You have my prayers and hugs, I see that you are near to me (in Georgia) so you will be in my thoughts & prayers even more so. I was raised Catholic (but turned Methodist) so my opinion might not be worth much but I would NEVER think less of you for getting divorced at all. It's like a drowning person latching on to their rescuer and taking them both down. You have to save yourself before you can help anyone. I am glad that you no longer think of hurting yourself, God loves you and we love you no matter what happens.

    Posted 2 years ago by Annie R #

  28. I really do think that God is leading me to take this action. I think I said before that, when I was engaged to Mr. L., I had a VERY STRONG "don't do this" feeling that I've gotten before when I was doing something outside of God's will, but I wasn't listening to him any more than I was listening to anyone else back then. The only time I ever had a trace of that feeling during this decision was when Mr. L. first offered to move the TV into the extra bedroom and asked me if that would help. I said it would help tremendously, and then said that this action would probably fix everything between us. That's when I felt the inner "no", and it didn't come from me because I was very happy at the offer.

    When I was still trying to preserve the marriage and avoid divorce, I called a nun who is a spiritual director at my late best friend's former church. She told me that my marriage is not sacramental because I married Mr. L. as a rescue mission.

    Posted 2 years ago by Leeny #

  29. Leeny, I am catholic but not a practicing one, and all I can say is God loves his children and will love you whatever you decide you need to do. This is why He gave us free will.

    Although you like your home and have been there before you were married, unfortunately it is best that you move out so that he doesn't know where you live. When I was in my situation, I had the thought of just packing my ex's things and putting them in boxes out in the carport and change all the locks but because I had to obtain a temporary restraining order for my safety, I was informed that it was better to find a new place that was a lot more secured (locked access to the building kind of place). Also, I knew that his so called friend could and possibly would try to break into the place and take things of mine or destroy things as the ex's friend had done this with an ex-girlfriend (she had to obtain a restraining order to get him to leave her alone).

    Sending you hugs and prayers that all works out for you Leeny whatever you decide. Truthfully, I think a clean break would be best for you both but of course only you know what is best.

    Posted 2 years ago by SylMiaFelixMomma #

  30. Oh Leeny! I have not been on TDK a lot what with everything that is going on with me, and so I haven't been following this latest crisis, but I am SO glad that you are seriously considering a divorce. I think you have bent over backwards and jumped through numerous hoops to try to make your marriage work and to help Mr. Leeny. It just hasn't worked, and that is certainly not your fault. Now it is time to think of yourself and your own needs. As the others have said, you really deserve to have a good, happy and healthy life, and I just don't see that happening for you if you stay with Mr. Leeny.

    We will certainly not hate you if you do decide to stay, but I certainly would feel very sad for you. You deserve so much better than your current life, and it doesn't sound as if Mr. Leeny deserves any more chances at all.

    I will keep you in my prayers and am sending loads of positive energy to help keep you strong! You GO girl! {{{{{Leeny}}}}}

    Posted 2 years ago by Rubia in CA, 4/28 #


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