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   Ok people, the silly season is here.
   Kittens are popping up all over.
   The kids are out of school and getting bored.
   And we are visited by the young needing attention and/or advice.

   We have done well we have given solid advice and any serious young readers can apply it. We are open to helping without question but when the changes go fast and heavy we start to feel threatened and start getting our backs up.

   Let's not. Lets just move forward and give our young visitor a chance to either settle in and prove to be an asset or move on for lack of the drama that may be in the process of being produced.

   Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #

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   I agree Ailuromanic! It's sorta the troll issue all over. Action and attack before thought and clear information!

   Posted 2 years ago by Momma to 2 MaineCoons #

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   I'm afraid I'm the pessimistic one once again. There is too much conflicting information, i.e., if mother just passed away, why is dad still at work?

   Posted 2 years ago by MaxandCali'sMom #

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   Sounded like Mom just died today, the same day Amy died, which was today. She had also on another thread talked about her Mom taking her to the shelter to pay for the cats. None of it makes sense, but that is typical of a pre-teen seeking attention. They will say whatever will get the response they are looking for. She was caught by a simple question, so she threw out the deaths because death gets sympathy immediately. She came looking for attention and to fill something inside. In all it is sad.

   Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

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   It is ok to be cautious. I just feel it counterproductive to be combative and add to the drama with accusation and counter accusation that increases the hurt all around for any innocent parties...
   We have had new people with very sad and dramatic starts that have proven to be solid TDK'ers. Look at our Beautiful Taco!
   We have had youngsters pass through with no more than cooing over the posted kits.
   And we have had Trolls. The trolls will stay only so long as fed.

   Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #

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   This sounds like what we went through before, possibly the same person?

   Posted 2 years ago by MaxandCali'sMom #

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   SM her father has posted! Take a look!

   I think she jsut needs guidence and someone to help her with the deaths!

   Posted 2 years ago by Momma to 2 MaineCoons #

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   I'm glad you guys didn't think I was a troll in the beginning ...my kittens needed the help and you were there for me through the lack of eating to the lack of pooping...I'm glad I got the benefit of the doubt.

   Posted 2 years ago by Alicia #

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   Being combative won't help, but I am glad that the story is out and Dad is involved. She does need help from a professional.

   Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

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    Sava has just added a new dramatic post. I fear the worst. It is time to ask KM to step in.

    Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #

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    I do too, she is just in dire need of attention. This just isn't the best place. I feel so sorry for this girl. Prayers that her father is able to get her the care she really needs.

    Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

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    Yes, I agree, Ailuromaniac! When I read that one, I said "Oh, come on now, give me a break!"

    Posted 2 years ago by MaxandCali'sMom #

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    She is in need of help I agree and guidence but I still think there's some gun jumping here. We have allowed trolls more consideration and time then it seems we have providied Sava. If this is a troll so be it, if she is a girl in need of attention or just advice then let's try and give it.

    Posted 2 years ago by Momma to 2 MaineCoons #

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    This person is indeed troubled. We are not qualified to provide the help needed. There have been started 8 dramatic posts in the last 30 hrs from this source. This is escalating more quickly than is usual.

    I don't want to see anyone hurt by jumping the gun but we cannot be responding to these posts. It is only encouraging more of the same.

    Unfortunately it has been proven time and time again that TDK is incapable of just passing these by. Either investing too much emotion and mis-placed assistance or venting of the anger and hurt felt when our care and passion for cats and their caretakers is taken advantage of.

    Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #

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    Ailuromaniac, if you ran for president I would vote for you. Always wise yet diplomatic. :-)

    Posted 2 years ago by Catwoman #

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    Alicia,it was very obvious that you were legit....now about hubby IDK. ;)

    Posted 2 years ago by Buttercup #

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    Listen she said her Mother died at 3 but she had to wait until her Dad got home from work. She isn't consistant or making a lot of sense. It is damaging to play along with whatever game she is playing. It isn't being less compassionate asking her to explain. We are adults and can leave out the emotion to a certain extent--she is 12 and will not be able too. This is my favorite age group I have ever worked with because of their great emotions for everything. Unfortunately with this girl she needs some professional help. Until we stop responding she will continue to try and get more reactions. The compassionate thing to do is share condolences for her loss and let it go. I truly had hoped that her Dad actually was on. I don't believe so after reading that post. This girl needs attention from family and professional help.

    Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

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    SM is right. Edited.

    Posted 2 years ago by Catwoman #

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    Edited?

    Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

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    I will agree and yet I still feel we are acting to hasty. If she is a young girl and is acting out to seek attention then perhaps we can provide it by a better route then the ones she is trying. Use explainations and keep it simple folks.

    I jsut as anyone could have been considered a pest and annoying and some probably even think i am and that is there choice. but I refuse to watch adults take attacks at this child specially if she is indeed facig the loss of a parent and a pet.

    Also take a moment to think! if mom was hospitable bound, and dad works a certain shift she could be left alone at home since she is 12 and considered old enough to be byt he parents.

    Posted 2 years ago by Momma to 2 MaineCoons #

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    SM, I had given my opinion about someone who is on a kitten chat the day her mother died, and the likelihood of her father working on said day, then upon his return home instead of making arrangements, commenting on a kitten chat on her behalf, etc. Then I edited it out after reading what you said.

    Posted 2 years ago by Catwoman #

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    I have lost many in my family to breast cancer. I remember the ends of each death. The medical professionals know when the end if near. I find it unbelievable that the woman would die at 3 and her husband stays at work until the evening to come home and talk with his daughter. Most fathers would move heaven and Earth to be with their children right after the mother dies. Calling her on inconsistancies has led us to the knowledge that her mother is dead. I don't think we know the true story, but it explains the irrational behavior. This girl need serious professional help. If school was still running she would at the very least have a counsilor there. There are a few counsilors on this site, but this isn't the setting she needs for the kind of help she needs.

    Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

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    It is not unreasonable to expect truth even with high emotions. If her mom died today, Her dad would not have been at work. The hospital, the funeral home...not work. If she died recently, yes he could be back at work.

    All we asked for was honesty and to leave drama behind for a time. It did not take so much as 30 minutes for another dramatic plea for attention concerning an animal she could not have seen as it was already clear there is a 10pm central time curfew.

    Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #

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    I think you are right CW. This kid really needs therapy--regardless of what her situation. I think you hit the nail on the head CW!

    Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

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    Ailuromaniac and SM, I think you are both right and this Sava is another attention getter. I suggest we leave them alone. If others feel okay, please send a report to KM. I don't think he will listen to me after my experience with him and a report request some months ago.

    Posted 2 years ago by SylMiaFelixMomma #

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    SMM I am very upset by how Ailuromaniac was treated by this child. Never was Ailuromaniac disrespectful and the child is being encouraged. In all my training it doesn't help to play into the game. Ailuromaniac treated her as an adult should treat a troubled youth by not playing with her and holding her accountable for what she says. This kid needs massive professional help.

    Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

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    Well TDK family I am off to bed please continue to hash this out! I mean she is jsut a child afterall and well we have all agreed she needs help.

    As for father's working sometimes we have no choice but to work to put food on the table and keep roof's over our heads and especially at the econimics of today I would not be surprised.

    I will leave and end my voice here. I hope when I return we can all be nice to each other and to newbies!

    Posted 2 years ago by Momma to 2 MaineCoons #

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    SM, No blood no harm. I expected the attempt to be made out to be the bad guy.

    CW, You are too kind. Trust me you don't want me as President. My diplomacy tends to run very shallowly. After all, I am a Rational Anarchist.

    Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #

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    As I said this is the age group I work with, and I know for certain that playing into her game is far more damaging then calling her on the inconsistancies and encouraging her to get help--real help. You aren't the bad guy--as a matter of fact you were far calmer than several others. I fear you are right. Many kids are stuck at home for the summer and this type of thing can be a great game for them.

    Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

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    I agree with you SM. I recall how last summer we had our spat of kids doing exactly this kind of thing. I hope the kid can find a better way to spend their summer than on a computer.

    Posted 2 years ago by SylMiaFelixMomma #

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