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Question about WORMS--Anncetera?

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  • Started 4 years ago by Catwoman
  • Latest reply from AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew

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  1. I noticed a few days ago that Wolfie had a couple of those dried-rice looking things stuck to the fur near his butt. Now I see that Teensie has them also. I know they are worms, but is there something I can buy over the counter to get rid of them? Should I assume all of the cats have them, and treat everyone?

    Posted 4 years ago by Catwoman #

  2. Standard disclaimer: I am not a veterinarian, nor do I play one on TV. Please do not mistake anything I write as being authoritative, or as representing anything other than my own, non-professional opinion. If you have any questions or concerns about your pet, please consult your veterinarian for diagnosis and treatment of pet illnesses and disorders.

    Catwoman, in my opinion, it's safe to assume that all of the cats have them. In my opinion, it seems likely that your cats have a tapeworm infestation. Pills are available for over the counter treatment, but be forewarned, the pills are expensive (a little over $3 each). In addition, if the cats are exposed to fleas or raw food (outdoors in particular), you'll probably need to re-treat periodically.

    http://www.petshed.com/articles/what-is-a-dog-or-cat-tapeworm.html

    http://www.myhealthycat.com/tapeworm.html (incl. med info & dosage)

    http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/tapeworms.html

    http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex845

    Praziquantel is usually used to treat tapeworms. It is now available over the counter, from places like California Veterinary Supply.

    Posted 4 years ago by anncetera2 #

  3. I just called my vet...and he is claiming that Praziquantel, the drug at the link, does NOT treat tapeworms. He is offering another medication that is $10.70 a pill. This does not seem like much until you multiply that by SEVEN!
    I said I would call back. Wanted to hear what you thought.

    Posted 4 years ago by Catwoman #

  4. anncetera2...thank you for the info links to more about this affliction that can affect both our cats and dogs. I saved the links to refer to later if need be. And....catwoman please get back to us on the Praziquantel....I'm curious to know why the vet disclaimed the info given.

    Posted 4 years ago by Karenopa #

  5. How about calling another vet? Perhaps you need a general de-worming for them all. Surely it can't be that much!

    Posted 4 years ago by MerD #

  6. Catwoman, I'm curious... what medication did your vet suggest he'd offer you?

    Posted 4 years ago by anncetera2 #

  7. Ummm...it began with a C? I was upstairs when they called back and not near a pen or paper.

    Posted 4 years ago by Catwoman #

  8. Catwoman, one of the links indicated that praziquantel, bunamidine, niclosamiden and mebendazole are often used to treat tapeworms.

    I'm especially curious what your vet indicated, since one of the articles with a fairly reputable bibliography says, "Products containing the ingredients called “praziquantel” or “epsiprantel” are most reliable."

    You could purchase the praziquantel tablets online, treat your cats with appropriate dosage (about $30-$35), and wait a week or two to see if that seems to clear up the problem. If not, you could follow up with fecal samples to your vet...

    Posted 4 years ago by anncetera2 #

  9. Thanks, Anncetera. I think that is what I will do.

    Posted 4 years ago by Catwoman #

  10. I just called the vet and they said the med they would give me is Cestex.

    Posted 4 years ago by Catwoman #

  11. Anncetera, I noticed that on all the information on diatomaceous earth that farmers include it in feed to rid animals or worms and pazrasites. But we used Petsmart over-the-counter worm medicine and it worked in one treatment.

    Posted 4 years ago by SharoninAustell46 #

  12. Anncetera, now I'm curious. Is there anything you can give your kitty to prevent worms?

    Posted 4 years ago by GreatDane #

  13. Catwoman, Cestex is a brand name for epsiprantel.

    Sharon, I wasn't sure about DE in terms of treating tapeworms, which is why I hadn't mentioned it yet. I'm sure that a small amount of food grade DE mixed into wet food isn't harmful, but I can't verify that it's helpful.

    And GD, no, there's nothing to prevent worms except to prevent re-exposure once the pet is worm-free. That means no exposure to outdoor food critters, raw meat, or fleas.

    Posted 4 years ago by anncetera2 #

  14. Ducks?

    Posted 4 years ago by GreatDane #

  15. My Pixie had tape worms, in fact she was so sick with them that the vet (after many blood tests) thought it was Addisons Disease. She kept having these horrible bouts of vomiting and diahhrea since I rescued her. She tested negative for all parasites, but tapeworm doesn't always show up. One day I noticed the tapeworm eggs in her poop and that day got 1 Cestex tablet. Pixie stayed sick for 2 more days. Then she was better and hasn't had another bout of anything since. In rare cases cats can really be effected and I really thought I was going to lose Pixie but she is like a new cat now.

    Posted 4 years ago by Elene_YorkPA_7/21 #

  16. GD, who's eating ducks?!

    Posted 4 years ago by SharoninAustell46 #

  17. Well, Bobsky WANTS to eat the backyard ducks. He wants to have his Mama cook them up so he can eat them (he's hoping they'll taste like turkey) and get rid of them for good. Mama has to take care of this, though, as the Bob has decided he's afraid of ducks!

    I was just wondering if ducks have fleas and/or parasites that could hurt Bob when he gets close enough to them. This morning he was about half a foot from one of them. Should I keep him away from the ducks? He is interested in them and they don't seem to mind him.

    Posted 4 years ago by GreatDane #

  18. GD, I think the Bobman is fine around the ducks, as long as he doesn't eat them! Usually a cat picks up tapeworms by exposure to fleas (carried by other mammals), or by ingestion of animals (mice, etc.) that contains eggs of tapeworms.

    So Bob's fine.

    Posted 4 years ago by anncetera2 #

  19. Elene, it's strange that your doc would do so many blood tests, but hadn't done any fecal or urine testing to rule out worms? Hmm.

    Posted 4 years ago by anncetera2 #

  20. Anncetera, I guess I'll have to try and keep the Bob from eating the ducks! Thanks!

    Posted 4 years ago by GreatDane #

  21. GD, you probably don't have to worry! Most ducks can take care of themselves, when it comes to overly curious cats. They can fly away. Or, upon spreading their wings and flapping and making all kinds of noise at the Bobster if he gets too intrusive, Bob may decide that a) they're MUCH bigger than he thought they were, and b) all the fuss and bother is more than he wants to deal with.

    Posted 4 years ago by anncetera2 #

  22. Just wanted to let you all know there is a way to prevent worms in cats. It's called Revolution, the flea preventative. It also prevents many different types of worms. Also, for dogs there is Interceptor. Just food for thought. Cestex is one of the best cures for worms, though. It works quickly & there is no passing of the worms, they are digested by the animals body. I just went through this w/ my cats & dogs after taking in a stray.

    Posted 3 years ago by cfo #

  23. Thank you sooooo much cfo. Where's the best place to find this and is it terribly expensive? I have 4 cats and 2 dogs!

    Posted 3 years ago by Karenopa #

  24. Karen, I get Revolution for my boys. I get it online from Canada and it's about $10.00 per dose and lasts for a month. It works great - my Bobster is outside every day rolling around and playing in nature and never a flea.

    Posted 3 years ago by GreatDane #

  25. Just so you don't have to read twice

    Posted 3 years ago by ailuromaniac #

  26. Let's try this without links.

    When a drug patent is expiring the company will reformulate and get a new patent then sell this "new drug" at a high price.

    from freepatensonline(dot)com

    Abstract of EP0662326
    Endoparasitic activity of cyclic depsipeptides (I) comprising amino acid and hydroxycarboxylic acid units and having 6-30 ring atoms is increased by praziquantel (II) and epsiprantel (III). An endoparasitic agent contg. (I) together with (II) and (III) is also claimed. Known cpds. (I) are disclosed in EP382173 (depsipeptide PF 1022), WO9319053, J. Antibiotics 45 (1992) pp. 1207-1255 and pp 1273-1277, Helv. Chimn. Acta 46 (1963) pp 927-935 and pp 1715-1720, ibid, 47 (1964) pp. 166-173, Tetrahedron Letters 2 (1971) pp. 159-162, Biochem. Biophys. Res. Commun. 57 (1974) pp. 554-561 and Zh. Obshch. Khim. 41-(10) (10972) pp. 2320-2334. (II) is known from GB1441554 and (II) is known from EP134984 and EP185012.

    These are the same meds.

    Sounds like your Vet. A) does not know his drugs, or B) believes the salesmans hype, or C) gets kickbacks.

    Posted 3 years ago by ailuromaniac #

  27. Hate the thought of any parasite in or out of living beings, but had to laugh at the thought of DUCKS flapping their wings, thus appearing to be MUCH larger than shown in the rear view mirror and the Bobster deciding maybe this venture wasn't quite what he signed up for....

    Posted 3 years ago by AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew #


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