Robert Anson Heinlein said many good things, and his attitude toward cats is one of them.
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Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to it.
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Cats, like butterflies, need no excuse.
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How we behave toward cats here below determines our status in heaven.
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You've seen this haiku before, but it honors a book by Heinlein called "The Door into Summer", about a cat who wants every door in a house opened, to find that door.
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Summer door, sunshine.
Winter door, snow. Mycat seeks
The door into summer.
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Homage to RAH
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Cat quotes - R.A.Heinlein
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Thanks KPMOM, these are great. I love the haiku especially. I have a book called "Cat Rules" that has a lot of quotes from famous people about cats....each page has a cool picture of a cat or cats and a quote with each one. I think there is one from Heinlein in there, it's a great little book.
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Love Heinlein.
Two of my favorite quotes.
Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. The Cat Who Could Walk Through Walls
Never try to outstubborn a cat. Time Enough for Love.
The Door Into Summer is the title I always use to introduce adult novices into science fiction. I love the description of Petronius the Arbiter's search through endless doors into deepest winter for the one that opens into summer.
I do disagree with the Dean on the subject of neutering. He took it too personally.
Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #
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Those are purrfect quotes. Only a cat person would truly appreciate them. I got several books about cats while I was recovering from brain surgery. I really cherish them because 1. they came from my TDK family and 2. they really get at the heart of cats, humans, and our complex relationship with them. They truly are beautiful, loving animals.
Posted 2 years ago by mollycat71 #
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Love the quotes, thank you for sharing them.
Posted 2 years ago by AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew #
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Their is a screensaver called [ Cats and Quotes ] by Senic Reflections that shows pictures of cats with quotes by famous people ,,Cindy loved it ,, my favorite was ,,, anything not nailed down is a cat toy,, I have read and enjoyed [ The Door into Summer ]
Posted 2 years ago by Renee in Arkansas #
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Clement has his moments but I prefer Clarke. A fall of Moondust is gripping. For a Clement intro I would go with the short story "The Cold Equations". I also get something of a hoot from Ice World. Leave it to man to export a tobacco habit to ET!
Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #
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I think I'd better hit my Second Time Around bookstore. I've got some catching up to do. I sort of gave up on science fiction when the style changed to mostly thud and blunder stories. I think that's pretty much what did in Star Trek as well. Older science fiction certainly had violence in it, but it wasn't violence for violence's sake. It had 'redeeming social value'. Also I got tired of LOTR's imitations. I've probably missed a lot of good stuff in current publications. I've taken to Tony Hillerman, (May he rest in peace.), Susan Wittig Albert, Nevada Barr, and J.A.Jance instead. I will not read modern stories of dysfunctional families; everybody's got a crazy uncle somewhere, but they are not usually very entertaining. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thanks, ailuromaniac KPMom.
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Too much 'Tolkein Lite' out there for certain. However, my co-worker (blast his soul) bullied me into reading the Robert Jordan "Wheels of Time" Series. It hooked me. Warning 12 long books and the series is being finished from his notes and drafts because he did not have the grace to live long enough to finish his project.
Roger Zelazny's Amber series is intriguing (the ones he wrote). I guess I am prejudiced because in college I took a Science Fiction Literature course. The college had a radio program where the co-instructors interviewed various authors. I got to ask Zelazny a question about the description of his characters moving through shadow (it is described as being a mental processss of selecting the attributes of the destination and I asked who's mind controlled reality when the shadow-walkers traveled together).
Zelazny sputtered a moment about not seeing the solicism of his concept. Then he started an analysis of the process as a solicistically driven one. At that time there were only 5 books in the series. I feel that I influenced the shift in the second generation books that followed.
I do like the Anne McCaffery Dragon series and her Crystal Singer series.
An older author is H Beam Piper. I adore his Little Fuzzy stories.
And while I hate, dispise and cannot read Harlequin romances and that ilk in general. I roared my way through the first 4 Betsy Taylor stories. "Undead and Unwed", "Undead and Unappreciated", Undead.... you get the picture from the titles. All I can say is the concept is just hilariously wrong.
Then there are the children's titles by Ruthven Todd....Space Cat, Space Cat Visits Venus, Space Cat Meets Mars and Space Cat and the Kittens...
I had better come up for air....
Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #
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Good morning, Ailuromaniac: Thanks for your suggestions. I will look up Jordan, and more of Zelazny. McCaffrey's dragons are one of my favorites, and most of the old-timers, especially Heinlein. For young people, Madeleine l'Engle's 'A Wrinkle in Time' and sequelae are great. For me, the Star Trek novels have declined in quality somewhat, but I still read them, every one. I've been hooked on ST since day 1. I once wrote a defense of Star Trek to a teacher who suggested deleting a reference to it. She obviously belonged to that other world, and needed to be educated herself.
I too took a science fiction class at UCLA, taught by Niven and Pournelle. It was interesting, but what I most remember is that Pournelle was fervent in his plea to build more nuclear generating plants. He ignored the problem of nuclear waste disposal, which to this day has not been solved. Until it is, I think we'd better look to other sources of energy.
Now I have a kudos for LOTR. I have a son who was moderately dyslexic, up into high school, when he discovered the LOTR. The books so entranced him that he made the effort to read them, all the way through. The day I came home from work and found him, stirring a pot of chili with one hand, with a book in the other, I knew he was over the hump, and all would be well.
As a matter of fact, I think that may be the difficulty with problem readers at all levels; they are not given certified page-turners to learn with, and they therefore see no reason to bore themselves with learning to read.
I could post "In Defence of Star Trek" if anybody would like to read it. I note a lot of cat people are Star Trek fans. Thanks again, KPMom -
Just found your post mom
Maybe to this list of series of books James Harriot's books could be added. To those who may not have read his lovely factual recountings of his service as an English country vet, his books starting with All Creatures Great And Small then progressing to All things Bright and Beautiful, then All Things Wise And Wonderful and The Lord God Made Them all are great reads. Also anything by Amy Tan starting with The Joy Luck Club, also Urula K. Le Guin's Earth-Sea trilogy, Asimov's Foundation trilogy, The once And Future King from T.S. White....Whew! I think I'd better take a breath too!
Mom, I loved your haiku also. Did you read the posting by Renee In Arkansas who told you about the cat screen-saver with famous quotes about cats. The web-site is called Scenic Refelctions and the screen-saver is Cats And Quotes. Check it out if you're interested. And thank you Renee for that info.
Posted 2 years ago by kitty poet #
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Ah, Trek! That is a subject almost as deep as a well. I am an original Treker. I even got permission from my mother to call a certain TV Network office in New York. Never got through but I can proudly claim a role in bringing the switchboard at NBC down one spring. I used to keep up with all the original series based books. As for the rest of the rebirths, I never took to Voyager. If TNG did not have Data I probably would have shrugged it off. Deep Space Nine had some good moments. I loved the episode where Sisko ended up in the grain bin tossing dead tribbles on Kirk's head. But it may suprise you (I know it did me), I came to love Enterprise. I really hated the closing episode. It is too much like history re-written by Big Brother. The shift in relationships was too pat and too not real. The only saving grace was a post series novel "The Good That Men Do".
This is a long winded version of I'd love to read your treatise.
P.S are you sure you aren't prowling through my bookshelves?
Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #
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Dear Kitty Poet and Ailuromaniac: I checked Scenic Reflections. My first thought was 'Decisions, decisions!' There are too many I'd like to see, but then, I was shot down. My ancient computer is not compatible with their offerings. I guess I'll stick with 'Flying Through Space', set at Warp 2, and in a less dense part of the galaxy. I tried it set at Warp 10, in the center of the galaxy, and if I was subject to seizures, that would do it. Kitty Poet, I have all of Herriot's books, in a place of honor, and I've certainly read the Earth-Sea Trilogy and the Foundation Trilogy. Did you know, other writers are expanding on the Foundation basis? I had most of those books, but they were lost in a move, sadly. Amy Tan writes about women who are SO SURE of something that I can't really get into their characters. It is both a blessing and a curse of some liberals, to always be able to see that there is more than one side to any idea. Sometimes as many sides as there are people. It makes wending one's way through the world of ideas both fascinating and dangerous.
Ailuro-Do you have Data's 'Ode to Spot' memorized? I almost do, and I have it on my computer, to read any time I feel like it.
I may try again to watch 'Enterprise'. I was very uneasy with it the couple of times I tried. We'll see.
I'll post "In Defense of Star Trek" separately, so maybe someone not on this thread will find it.
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Mom, there must be something genetic going on: I too loved all of Star Trek's manifestations until Star Trek Enterprise. I won't judge any that like it, to each his own, but it's not my cup of tea, or Romulan Ale for that matter. I must say that I believe the reason Star Trek: Enterprise to me is not as good as it's predessors, is that the true captain, Gene Roddenberry, was no longer at the helm alongside his First Mate, Majel Barret. The King had died and his queen went on to to other "enterprises", producing a new sci-fi series that I can't remember the title of. Now since Majel passed away they are together again and voyage the stars together, going where no man (or woman) has gone before.
Posted 2 years ago by kitty poet #
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I haven't commited Data's ode to memory. I kinda quit the deliberate memorization thing when I graduated high school. Although I can still quote the whole 1492 bit. I tended to select a piece that would satisfy the 100 line requirement so I could get it out of the way. I did the same with book reports. One would be selected with over 500 pages of the minimum 3 reports 1000 pages. I really felt for the kids slogging through 6 and 7 books and having to slave over pages and pages of report writing.
Enterprise does suffer from the 911 effect but then TOS suffered from the cold war/Vietnam effect.
I liked the relationships aspect of the stories. The learning to get along metaphors.
And I thought they did a good job of integrating some of the back stories to TOS and TNG. Dr Singh's development of the enhanced humans and his failure to improve humanity leading to him starting on cybernetics and AI. With that story they worked in a reason for TOS Klingons not having all the facial ridges for examples.
I really enjoyed the story arc that took us back to Sarek and the beginnings of the Vulcan of TOS.
Most of the objection's I've heard about on the series are that Trip got the girl and the ship looked so much more advanced than the design of TOS Enterprise.I should have mentioned the Le'Guin books. Much as I love the Earthsea, I have to give my top nods to "The Left Hand of Darkness" and "The Lathe of Heaven".
Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #
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There is also a Star Trek screensaver called [ system 47 ]that you might like.Has anyone seen the new Star Trek movie yet,I heard it takes place either before Kirk is in Star Fleet or after he and Spock first meet, not sure which
There was a book I read many years ago in which Kirk had ran away from home to join the merchant marines because he didn't like all the time his father spent on his caree in Star Fleet,anyone else read it ?Posted 2 years ago by Renee in Arkansas #
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At the risk of attracting a barage of rotten tomatoes, I liked the reboot movie. It moves Trek to a parallel universe and opens the vista for many more tales. It makes enough changes to prevent a complete rehash of the original series episodes (I found the first season of TNG to suffer a lack of original thought because of the almost slavish revisiting of good TOS episodes).
Yes it is Moby Dick with a twist. The Federation is cast as the whale. Yes it begins and ends with lots of fireworks that seem gratuitous. But do you expect Ahab to be reasonable? Do you send him to yet another timeline to wreak insane vengance? Do you expect him to accept mercy? Do you expect a half-Vulcan to not harbor a desire for vengance?The movie suffers from a little under telling of the beginning of Kirk's story. While I am not a particular fan of Alan Dean Foster, he did justice to this part of the story in his novelization. In the movie you have no sympathy for the snot nosed delinquent stealing his step-dad's car and demolishing it. In the novelization you feel for the boy who is pushed too far by a step-dad who is selling his real dad's legacy (the car) while his mother is off world.
Much as I love Spock (prime and second), I am blown away by Karl Urban's interpretation of "Bones". A trivia bit is that the sick bay orders calling to Nurse Chapel were his adlib.
Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #
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I can't wait to see that movie, but since I am deaf I have to wait for the DVD with captions; otherwise it will make no sense. Any TV I watch has to be captioned as well. Pre-captioning is pretty good, but captioning in real time is a howl. Starts and stops and guesses, and creative spelling. Some of it's funny, but sometimes they lose it, and then it's frustrating. My hearing was damaged way back when I was a Rosie the Riveter, in WW II. Small price.
I was impressed with Zachary Quinto in 'Heroes", so how did he do in the movie?
I have the same problem with the latest Harry Potter movie. Waiting!I feel sorry for all those people who can't enjoy those sub-created worlds, created by gifted people, and put out there for us to explore. KPMom.
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Thumbs up. That had to be a real hoot of a casting call. "Seeking tall slender male must be able to independently raise eyebrow and hold vulcan salute." He was a good physical match for a younger Nimoy. I did notice the variation in the earlobe was marked. The echos of various postures and scenes from TOS were excellent and he held the aloof pose flawlessly. Except of course when enraged to mayhem by Kirk or dealing with his Mother.
I just hope these young lions and the lioness realize what a lifetime commitment they have made and are willing to follow through.
You might want to try the novelization just before you watch the DVD when it comes out.
Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #
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I've often wondered about the fate of actors who find themselves in an iconic series. Some of them never seem to get beyond that typing. Take just all the Star Trek people. Most of them I've never heard from again. Brent Spiner did a turn in 'Independence Day", but that's all I've heard from him. Patrick Stewart has been active, but has never achieved the pinnacle he rose to on TNG. The only one who's been front and center all these years is William Shatner, ending up as that fat, raunchy old lawyer on 'Boston Legal'. About as far as you can get from Captain Kirk, but, as Shatner has been called a force of nature, I loved Boston Legal, which had an ending I could cheer for.
I suppose, going into it, they really can't predict that they may be mortgaging theur futures. Of course Quinto might, seeing what has already happened to ST people.
What was the novelization called? That may help me find it. We have a wonderful bookstore here in town, called Auntie's Bookstore. Puts Borders to shame. Offers everything Borders does,and more. They sell used books as well as new books, and they are shelved together, so if you look for a particular book, the new and the used are side by side, so if you buy used, you can get two for the price of one. They sponsor story times, author's readings, book clubs, (there's a science fiction book club), poetry workshops, and an excellent coffee shop. They do mail order and other stuff. The place is huge, but they have maps.It's been a great day, chatting. KPMom.
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Sorry the book is simply entitled "Star Trek" The trade paperback has a montage of the cast if that helps.
I saw Leonard Nimoy on an episode of Beeker the other day. He has done fairly well. DeForest Kelly and Jimmy Doohan had a long history prior to Star Trek. Others moved to stage or behind the camera.
Posted 2 years ago by ailuromaniac #
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Patrick Stewart has been doing a lot of work with the Royal Shakespeare Company and has also appeared in several other very prestigious plays in UK. He has also been on the radio and on TV in Britain. I think he might have got homesick and didn't want to spend too long in USA. He was a stage actor principally before he went to StarTrek.
Posted 2 years ago by Pollys_Mum_in_UK_2605 #
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The fog comes in on little cat feet. It sits
looking over harbor and city, and then moves on.Now I'll Google it and see if I got it right. Seventy years is a long time to remember something like that.
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76.Fog, by Carl Sandburg
--------------------------The fog comes
On little cat feet.It sits looking
Over harbor and city
On silent haunches
And then moves on.
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