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My girl Jetta - thoughts/advice

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  1. My little girl is growing older, as we all do. I found this site last year when the vet suggested she may have cancer in her tummy. I never pursued a CT scan as I cannot afford it. She has done okay this last year. She still vomits. Sometimes it's hairballs, sometimes it's bile and sometimes, like yesterday, her whole tummy after eating. She used to eat three cans of FF a day and now is down to one, sometimes one and half. She still drinks water pretty good. Her coat is still shiny and she grooms herself. She does have a bad heart murmer that I found out about last year, though the doc never told me anything about meds or what to do since she was pretty sure she had cancer.

    She plays and cuddles and loves. BUT... she cries: ALOT. Not always. When she coughs (which is my understanding from her heart murmer) she looks at me with eyes that say mama I can't take it. When she comes out of that, she is her old self. I don't know what to do. I'm in a negative cash flow and do not have extra funds for a vet visit. Anyone else have a baby with a heart murmer? Any thoughts, suggestions, advice? I've always promised her I would not let her be in pain and I won't. But how will I know? I will do the final loving act "when it's time" but I want to be sure I don't make that sooner than it needs to be. She (and Boo Boo) were my first kitty babies. She's all I've got in this world, besides my daddy (and honey, but well, we know how that has been these last few months).

    Posted 6 months ago by Lainey #

  2. OH Lainey..I don't have any advice for you and my heart goes out to you. I hope someone else could advise you and help you.

    Posted 6 months ago by cricketsmama #

  3. Thanks CM, me too. Thank you!

    Posted 6 months ago by Lainey #

  4. I'm going to bed. Bumping this up in the hopes someone may be able to pass along some pearls of wisdom...

    Posted 6 months ago by Lainey #

  5. No pearls of wisdom, but lots of love, Lainey. {{{{{hugs}}}}}

    Posted 6 months ago by Kitten Whisperer #

  6. Thanks KW! I haven't done much research on heart murmers as I don't want to scare myself. Was hoping someone here may have had some experience with it and/or advice about her vomiting/eating.

    Posted 6 months ago by Lainey #

  7. bumping...

    Posted 6 months ago by Lainey #

  8. bumping for Lainey!

    Posted 6 months ago by cricketsmama #

  9. So sorry Lainey--you have so much to deal with. I don't think the heart murmur is the issue here--many cats live long lives with a murmur. It's the cancer--if she is looking at you with "those eyes", she is telling you it's time. We all want to keep our babies with us for as long as possible, it hurts so much to lose them, but we must not be selfish----we can't let them suffer. When our Rocky had neck surgery to remove his cancer tumors (he was only 9, and we didn't want to lose him so soon)he died soon after the surgery. The vet said "He's probably better off this way, and you don't have to make the decision, he made it for you".

    Posted 6 months ago by Sheba's Mom in Phx, AZ #

  10. Lainey...since there's not a sure diagnosis of cancer lets just for the heck of it say maybe Jetta is having difficulties with furball regurgitation. Does she have a longer coat...does she shed alot in the warm months? Why not try giving her some Petromalt which is a simple, low cost remedy for hairballs. My cats love it and it's easy to just squeeze a small ribbon of it on their front paw which of course they then consume (happily) by washing it off. It's sure worth a try. Poor Jetta. I know this probably has nothing to do with a heart murmur but the constant coughing could certainly be upsetting to that situation, I'd think. Good luck littermate! =D

    Posted 6 months ago by Karenopa #

  11. Lainey, I see that Jetta is 15. Nobody can advise you on your own companion of so many years, but I can at least add a few observations from my own experience with my darling old lady Lolita. At 15, Lolita was reaonably healthy, but she started to vocalize a lot more than previously. I'm sure you know this, but 'elderly' cats (golden oldies) need more reassurance as they become more fragile. The way they show this is to call more - the calls become more varied too, so you may find that Jetta has her 'middle of the night, waking up, bit confused - where are you mom?' call; her 'a bit of food now' call; her 'I want up here' call; her 'ah, there you are mewmy!' cry, and so on - only you know the full extent of the repertoire! (Lolie even had a 'I'm in the bath, and I want the water turned on NOW' cry, as she liked to drink FRESH water). So, I would suggest this is what the vocal development is - simply becoming old and needing to be reassured of your presence.
    When Lolita was 16, she started to throw up a lot. She was longhaired, but a lot of the puking was just as you describe, bile, or just froth. The vet said her digestion was wearing out, as it does in older cats (and people) so she was put on a sensitivity food, which was very simple, and plain, and I could buy at the vet. It was Royal Canin (not sure if you have that there), but all that was in it was chicken and rice, and some nutritional supplements. She would eat about 3 pouches a day, but by the time she was 17, most of her food was just going straight through her system, and most of her bms were liquid. Still, she had reasonable quality of life, and she had her quiet routine, and she was loved. She had a few little 'episodes' that year, mini-strokes, the vet said, and once I found her, very disorientated, with her eyes turning in circles. The vet got her better again, but she was slipping downhill. Still, she was not in pain, and she loved being home. Maybe Jetta needs a simpler diet, one her elderly system can digest more easily?

    At 18, Lolie had stopped grooming herself, and her coat became unmanageable. It was just too difficult to brush the mats out, because she had become very frail and bony, and it hurt her. She had to have a large part of it cut away, and this necessitated an anaesthetic. As you can imagine, this was just too hard on her, and she died 4 days afterwards. I knew she was at the end. There was no question. She was not 'present' anymore. And yet, all those previous years, and months and weeks, I never thought that. I always knew what she meant by a particular call, or action. I always knew when she wasn't feeling good, and when she was ok.
    I suppose my point is, if there is any question in your mind, then Jetta is still ok. The coughing sounds very upsetting - that I have no experience of with previous kitties. When her time is close, you will know. For now, the only thing to do is to make her golden oldie time as comfortable as you can.

    Posted 6 months ago by eleniki #

  12. I just want to make one other comment concerning the Petromalt. Jeff says he had a couple of older cats once, one with a long coat, one short. After treating them he'd find multiple (excuse the delicate term)bowel movements in the litter box that were very full of hair so I'm thinking it probably is helpful in clearing their digestive tracts which we all know can cause any number of problems when clogged up. Prayers to you and Jetta too.

    Posted 6 months ago by Karenopa #

  13. Thank you, CM, for bumping this for me, it was busy at work today and I only got on for a few brief times. Thanks Sheba's mom and Karen and Eleniki (snuck in while I was logging in!). I don't use the wire brush on her anymore as it's too hard on her (getting thin and bony as your Lolie, Eleniki) so I use a softer slicker but it doesn't seem to get as much hair. She is drinking and eliminating well. She went months without vomiting much and now it has increased (not significantly but noticeably). Mostly bile/froth or hair, but the other day it was undigested food. Those eyes during the coughing spells, OMG, she looks like she's pleading with me. But when she comes out of it she is her old self again and she is bright. She still loves to play but yes, she is being more clingy and definitely her vocalizing, wow, I think you described it perfectly Eleniki. I will never let her suffer, I won't hold on just for me (well, I keep promising myself that) but as I said originally, I don't want to send her off if she has good life left. Thank you all for responding. You have relieved my mind and given me things to think about. I am going to work on changing her diet around a bit to something easier for her. She doesn't eat a lot of dry food, but I leave some out for her, changing it up for variety and she munches it for a few days before I freshen it up. She loves her hairball treats (Friskies I think) and I think I have a tube of laxatone around here somewhere (will find it or go buy some). Thank you my family! I'll keep you posted on her.

    Posted 6 months ago by Lainey #

  14. bumping just in case anyone else might have some ideas... i was thinking of trying baby food (meat).. i was reading about raw but I'm scared to change her to that right away, even though that is more natural for a cat... old habits die hard with hoomans!

    Posted 6 months ago by Lainey #

  15. I don't think I'd change Jetta to raw at this late stage in her life Lainey. I think it'd be too hard on her both physically and psychologically, though I am open to correction. However, one aspect of a raw diet is its simplicity, and I think you can achieve this through prescription 'sensitive' cat food, which will not be hard on Jetta's digestive tract. She needs the same food every day too, no variety - this will also be easier on her. It's good that she's eliminating well, and that her bms are solid. I think I would be avoiding dry food for her, as I would for any cat actually, as it will sap moisture and require her to drink an inordinate amount of water. That's got to be hard on her kidneys. Wet is best, as it will provide her with all the hydration she needs, even if she's not inclined to drink much water. And you can always put a little water in with her wet food anyway, just to be sure. The thing about baby food is, how can you be sure she's getting the right supplements (ash, taurine, minerals, vitamins A, E and D3, omega-3 oils)? I think it would be a good complementary food for her, but alternate it with a complete prescription cat food maybe..

    Posted 6 months ago by eleniki #


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