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   Okay I need some thoughts on a habit of MaxMax's. As I have had Mystie since June 4th I had hoped the pecking order would have been established and Max would see he is still the dominant one. Well From the beginning Max has bitten Mystie and the scruff of her neck and ppinned her to the floor until she cries out. Well I had assumed this was his way of showing her he was dominant. Well i5t hasn't worked Mystie cries out we spray them with a waterbottle since Max wont end it on his own. Well He also throws one front paw over her bittens her scruff area and is now moving his own back end to completely pin her. My mom would describe it as if he is mounting her as a male would a female. I am uncertain what to do about this behavior since I know both are fixed so no kittens can come of it but the thought of in a siense my boy doing this worries me because I thought this would take the inclination away to mate if both were fixed.

   Could Mystie in som,e way be s3ending of a scent that triggers this aggressiveness and mounting posture? Is it a dominance thing for him?

   I will be talking to my vet very soon but I was wondering if there was any thoughts tht might put my mind at ease until I can talk to her.

   I am not sure how to fix this so I can have them both out and have run of the house if I can't trust MaxMax to not hurt her when no one's home. I would hate to for the next 10 plus years have to keep up the one out one in the room during the day schedule as well as the night schedule of one in the playpen and one out with me in the bedroom. As it is I can't leave them out otherwise I can't relax enough to sleep and I am a light sleeper to b gin with and I admit I spring awake as soon as I hear someone in the dark cry.

   Help please!

   Angie

   Posted 4 months ago by Momma to 2 MaineCoons #

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   He is doing his best to be dominant. Mounting in not necessarily about mating it is about dominating. He is going to cintinue to scruff her and pin her until she either acknowledges that he is top cat or until she gets to her full size and turns the table on him. Have you tried feliway yet to see if that settles things any?

   Posted 4 months ago by KYKAT 12 23 #

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   Thanks KYKat! This was my thoughts but wasn't sure once mom started throughing in that it was a sexualized position. As for her acknowlwdging it I doubt it. She's too much of a spit fire for that. So then it is basically waiting for her to trounce him good enough he backs off. Sigh! Could be a while there heheh for her to get large enough to do that!

   As for Feliway no I haven't I thought it was used for scaredy cats, stress and such. Is it also good for aggression?

   Posted 4 months ago by Momma to 2 MaineCoons #

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   I have heard it will calm down agression. Cat dynamics are flexible. For the longest time Emma was top cat because she was oldest and then when we moved, Gracie decided she was going to be top cat. Somedays it depends upon which room they are in, who calls the shots! It is NEVER Thierry, he is completely an omega and the girls treat him like the perpetual kitten!

   Posted 4 months ago by KYKAT 12 23 #

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   Yes it is used for aggression too, she may get tired enough to whip his behind even before she gets 'big' enough. Good luck I know this is worrying for you, since you love both of them so much.

   Posted 4 months ago by AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew #

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   Thanks AzDebra and KYKat! The advice is most appreciative. It is just so odd seeing it in my Max when he is just so laid back and gentle in nature. There are stints where all is smooth and it is just play and then he gets a urge to remind her he's the boss!

   Posted 4 months ago by Momma to 2 MaineCoons #

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   Hi Angie! I hate to be the one to tell you but just because they have both been fixed doesn't mean that they won't occasionally get the urge. My Snowman was neutered as a young kitten but never lost his urge to "do his thing". Rusty still does this too, unforturnately for Milo and Petey, Rusty likes boys not girls!

   While I've never used feloway myself, I hear it works very well and should help you with Max and Mystie. Good luck and hug them both for me will you?

   Posted 4 months ago by debsterwiz #

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   Hey, Ange! My Skimbleshanks was neutered when he was the right age but he never got over acting as though he still thought that he was supposed to do something important while in that position! It got better but he never completely broke the habit. His target was Bombalurina who started out smaller but then got big enough to take him on. She was very good at delivering some well placed swats. We didn't separate them and eventually it worked out okay.

   Posted 4 months ago by WillowandWindismom #

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   Thanks Deb and WWM! I am trying to get them together more and more and am hoping during Christmas break while mom and I are home we can get this taken care of. I am not happy as a jailer but then also I can't allow Max to hurt her either. I don't want her afraid of him and sometimes I can see she is when he is all in to it!

   Thanks again for the advice!

   Posted 4 months ago by Momma to 2 MaineCoons #

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    ANGIE!!!!!! (huggs).... I totally agree with the advise above!... neutering/spaying doesn't take away the "urge" to dominate, so that's probably his game!... it's particularly difficult when you have boy/girl cats, trying to establish this!... in my experience, the "boys" typically "think" they should naturally be dominant, but the "girls" tend to have a stronger "alpha" instinct!.... funny now nature is!.... anyway, I agree with the above, you are doing all the right things, and it will eventually work itself out.... good news - once it does, it will become habit and "incidentes" will become less frequent!

    Posted 4 months ago by AV #

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    Hi Av! Thanks! I am hoping sooner myself! All I can do is keep up what I am doing and try to stretch the good play date times. Off to work now! Laters!

    Posted 4 months ago by Momma to 2 MaineCoons #

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