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  1. I've kind of been dodging TDK because of this, too. It takes up where the thread "The lawyer appointment" left off. Most of it comes from an e-mail I sent to my sister-in-law:
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    H was talking about postponing until January some reforms I required last March, and I told him that January would be too late. He got mad and said he didn't like having a deadline. I told him, with equal vehemence, that he wasn't getting a deadline, he had gotten an extension; I could have filed for divorce in early September after he did not go to his therapist in August (a cancellation and subsequent no-show, after which he was dismissed from her practice). That happened to be the evening of the day on which I saw my lawyer for the last pre-filing consultation. I told H some of the specifics of the impending separation process. As he put it later, "a light went on in his head"; he finally realized that this was actually going to happen. I really was leaving and taking the cats, and his life was about to become a lot less secure and pleasant. We agreed to put off until January any decisions about our future. He even volunteered, if things aren't going well then, to file for an annulment to try to avoid my having to file for divorce. (He's been telling me for years that no one ever taught him how to be a husband and he isn't able to carry out the role. I used to offer to teach him; I then used to tell him he's had a lot of years in which to learn; I finally started telling him to tell it to a judge and ask for an annulment.)

    Since then, he has become quite a reformed character. He's going out of his way to do his job as the homemaker, to be kind and affectionate toward me, and to take on some adult responsibility for himself. The task he wanted to put off until January (moving the TV out of the living room into the second bedroom, which was being used as a storeroom) is completed. He cancelled the pay channels that he had on the cable service and combined our phone service with cable, saving us considerable money. He is taking the initiative in getting financial assistance to have his remaining four teeth removed. He's also been accepted as a patient by a private psychiatrist, who has put him on two new medications that seem to be working very well. The doctor made some recommendations for a new therapist, and H chose the one whom the doctor said was his first choice and saw the therapist yesterday. The therapist says of himself that he’s “not a pushover”, is going to require H to do homework, and will hold him responsible for his behavior with no excuses. It seems a very good match to me.

    Now, I well realize that this could be a temporary response. It's possible, though, that H has encountered, perhaps for the first time in his life, a serious consequence for his unacceptable actions that is not going to go away if he yells, threatens, or otherwise escalates obnoxious behavior. He tried all that. He'd yell for hours about what he'd do if I divorced him, that he'd get legal aid after me, demand half my income for spousal support, call a former caseworker, make his sister get involved with managing his affairs, and just generally make things as legally and financially difficult for me as possible. It didn't work; it just helped to bring about that which he wanted to avoid.
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    The lawyer appointment was on 10/21 and on 11/2 I mailed the message on which this is based to my sister-in-law. So far, so good; H is still working hard at being a good husband.

    Posted 2 years ago by Leeny #

  2. Oh Leeny, please don't EVER feel like you can't come here and post and get some support. We all love you here and don't judge. You know you are always welcome. I pray that all is going to work out and that you have the life you deserve, with or without H. Hugs and prayers headed your way!

    Posted 2 years ago by mollycat71 #

  3. Leeny you are far more compassionate than I will ever be. I remember his abuse both physical and mental toward you. YOU are the one I care about. I know you would like your marriage to work--I sure understand that too. I just want YOU to be happy and treated with the respect you deserve. My prayers are with you whatever you decide. I pray that you put yourself first--remember you are a wonderful person and deserve love.

    Posted 2 years ago by SoxsMom #

  4. ((Leeny))
    I hope that this change in him is for good. You are always in my thoughts and prayers. I give you lots of credit, I could not deal with what you have had to endure. You are a wonderful person and deserve the best and I hope you get it.

    Posted 2 years ago by cricketsmama #

  5. (((Huggs Leeny)))...

    Posted 2 years ago by AV #

  6. Echoing everyone else here, Leeny. Please, please take care of you. That is who and what we care about.

    {{{{Leeny}}}}

    Posted 2 years ago by Kilroy #

  7. Leeny, the good news here is that he has proven that he CAN take care of himself, if he is properly motivated to do so. He can survive without you. Take care of yourself first; that is what is important. {{Leeny}}

    Posted 2 years ago by NNGM #

  8. I have to leave now, NNGM, but next time I'll tell you about H's performance on the night of the Great Sewage Flood. If I'd ever had any reservations about his ability to manage things, they would have been dispelled that night. One thing about H is that he's gotten too much indulgence because of "his disability" (BTW, we have agreed to refer to that as "his brain damage" to help take away the "disabled" identity) and, to keep that coming, he has tried to conceal his abilities and competence. His new therapist isn't going to let him get away with that.

    Posted 2 years ago by Leeny #

  9. Good for the therapist! I hope he can help H. I don't know how you do it; you have much more patience than I could ever hope for.

    Posted 2 years ago by NNGM #

  10. Glad to hear from you, Leeny. {{{{Leeny}}}} and good wishes for the future however it turns out.

    Posted 2 years ago by GizzysAuntie #

  11. Leeny, I hope everything will resolve and the changes are permanent. You have so much patience. Please know that you are loved so much by all your TDK friends. We only want what will make you happy. You will always have our support, no matter your decisions because you are the one we care about. If you are happy, we will be too! ((((Leeny))))

    Posted 2 years ago by rainingwolf #

  12. Leeny, know that 1st and foremost, you are loved. By so many of us. Your life has been difficult at best. You have our support, as always. I don't know how to help you, but to give you my love, prayers and support in whatever decision you make. You have had it rough, and I just want you to be happy, however that may be. You are a strong lady and you will come through this. I will see you reach that goal in a short time, I am sure. Much love, Mama Lynn

    Posted 2 years ago by Lynn from PA 6/8 #

  13. Thinking about you Leeny and hoping for the best.

    Posted 2 years ago by AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew #

  14. Leeny...it sounds to me like some very good positive response on H's part. Continue to stand your ground & the life you want to live & it will all come out in the end results. I always try to tell myself the way to accomplish anything you want is to think positive. {{{HUGS}}}

    Posted 2 years ago by feral #

  15. I'm glad you are posting again, Leeny. I've been worried about you and am relieved to hear that H has finally had an epiphany about where your relationship is headed. I hope he has met his match with the new therapist! {{{hugs}}}

    Posted 2 years ago by Kitten Whisperer #

  16. (((( leeny)))), you have lots of support here . please come any time for support.. many prayers and good wishes to you .... keep standing your ground !!! (((( leeny)))))

    Posted 2 years ago by beth #

  17. Hugs to you Leeny! I hope that your H decides to make the changes permanent and to go forward from here. You are ALWAYS wanted on TDK -- we love you and support you.

    Posted 2 years ago by Shelley #

  18. {{{Leeny}}} I hope that everything happens the way that in your heart you would really like it to. We want you to be happy. :)

    Posted 2 years ago by jcat #

  19. {{Leeny}}. I echo what the others have said so well.

    Posted 2 years ago by SammyandOliversmama #

  20. Leeny, you're sounding so strong and secure in yourself. That's wonderful! No matter how things turn out in the future, you ARE a strong and capable woman, you CAN stand on your own two feet, and you CAN make something positive of yourself.

    Hopefully H will see the treasure he has in you and modifies his ways permanently, but don't hesitate to correct him if he strays. If this is faked on his part, he won't be able to maintain it for long. Keep watching, keep vigilant, be the strong person WE all know you are. You're growing in ways you may never have imagined. Good for you!

    Posted 2 years ago by Siobhan #

  21. {{{Leeny}}} I, too, am enduring some dumb $#!t with my PH; he neglected to pick me up from my psychiatrist appointment yesterday (after he found out that I would be off medication for the time being -- my HMO will not approve Paxil CR because it is not in their formulary, so I had been trying to use alternative therapy to calm my panic attacks, by way of vitamin and mineral supplements; the alternative therapy worked better than the Paxil CR, without the side effects of not caring about life). The medical office where I have my appointments had to call a taxi to take me home, and the police were called to make sure I actually was able to get in my house (by law, in Cleveland, if you have mail, especially a utility bill, in your name come to a specific residence, you are a resident at that address and you must be allowed to enter your home). Meanwhile, PH threw out the vitamin and mineral supplements I was taking so I would nourish my brain and ease my panic attacks; apparently, he thinks drugs are the way to go for behavioral health issues, plus he threw out my markers, my highlighters, and my environmentally-safe all-purpose cleaners. His reason: he claims to have felt sick and he was rooting out the 'cause'(BTW, he has schizophrenia. Any stupid little thing, however, seems to set off his delusions). HE wasn't taking the vitamins, HE wasn't drawing with the markers, and he d**n sure wan't cleaning with environmentally-safe cleaners (which, BTW, would have made him feel BETTER, not worse). I currently have $14 to my name, and I've been through the h*ll of having had to stay in a homeless shelter before: I'll burn in H*ll before I do that again. Leeny, if you can shuttle a case of whoop-*$$ my way to get mine to straighten up and fly right, that would rock.

    Posted 2 years ago by Vicki #

  22. Vicki, WHY are you living with someone who has uncontrolled schizophrenia? Why is he still there? Evidently his medicines aren't doing him much good--if he's even on any.

    Unfortunately, that motivation to straighten up and fly right comes from within the person. All I was able to do was to tell H what I was going to do and what was going to happen to him as a result. He was the one who decided that he wanted to prevent it and changed his behavior accordingly.

    Posted 2 years ago by Leeny #

  23. Stay strong Leeny!!!

    Posted 2 years ago by 2bpurring #

  24. Leeny, so glad that the light finally went off. I hope and pray for you that this is a permanent change and that you both will be happy. Now that he has shown his capabilities, I hope he never back-slides again. You deserve all good things in you life.

    Posted 2 years ago by KYKAT 12 23 #

  25. Leeny, stay strong and focused on what you need. Hugs!

    Posted 2 years ago by nawlins catmom #

  26. {{{Leeny}}} Stay strong for you. I hope and pray that his changes will be permanent and yes, he may backslide, but if he really want to change he'll keep working. I hope for your sake, and his, and your marriage that it is. But if it isn't I pray you will keep your strength and take care of you!

    {{{Vicki}}} Oh girl! you deserve sooo much better! Which vitamins and supplements were you taking? You are in my prayers, too!

    Posted 2 years ago by Jetta and Boo Boo's Mom #

  27. Leeny, he claims to be taking his medication; if he is, it doesn't seem to be working. I can't go anywhere unless and until I have the physical strength to do so; that would require me to lose the 50 pounds I believe I gained while living with him. Lainey, I've been taking magnesium and B12 so far; I'll have to discuss SAM-e and passionflower with my pharmacist to find out the side effects.

    Posted 2 years ago by Vicki #

  28. I don't know much about passionflower but I know SAM-e is wonderful, though expensive. I used to have an account at Consumer Labs (Consumer Reports of OTC supplements) and I'll see if I have a report I printed out aboutSAM-e. There aren't a lot of side effects as I recall. It is something our bodies produce that reduces with age. However, I don't know how it interacts with other things. Bless you both.

    Posted 2 years ago by Jetta and Boo Boo's Mom #

  29. Vicki, you said you had at least one utility bill in your name at that address. Is it not your house? Why can't HE leave?

    Posted 2 years ago by Leeny #

  30. Leeny, if it were my house (that is, if the mortgage were in my name), he would have been gone a long time ago.

    Posted 2 years ago by Vicki #


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