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George's meowmy needs help!

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  • Started 1 year ago by Kilroy
  • Latest reply from Rubia in CA, 4/28
  1. Pardon the ick first thing in the morning, but little Mr. Fuzzbutt peed AND pooped on his favorite blanket last night instead of using his perfectly clean box. The last time he peed on his blankie the box wasn't perfectly clean so I was blaming myself, but this time the box was clean.

    GEORGE!!!!

    Mr. K thinks he's mad at us for going away, or because we have the ginormous winter blanket on the bed that messes up George's usual bedtime snuggles routine, but I have no idea what the problem is. He's also been randomly meowing since we got back, really urgently like there's something wrong. He came into the bedroom last night and meowed next to my head, and it wasn't his normal "I'm bored, pay attention to me" meow.

    What's up, fuzzbutt?

    Posted 1 year ago by Kilroy #

  2. Oh, Georgie. Maybe it hurts and he has a UTI. Vet's appointment called for, pronto, to rule out anything physical. He could be just mad with you but you said he was rapt to have you back. The miaows suggest to me he's trying to tell you something, and he's normally so good, so a physical reason seems probable.

    Posted 1 year ago by jcat #

  3. *Kilroy contemplates trying to wrestle cat and carrier to vet in the slippery winter wonderland outside* Argh.

    Oh, and did I mention there was a goggie here on Christmas? A big, slobbery, stupid goggie who jumps on furniture and steals food off plates. Who would think it was OK to bring that into someone else's home when it was crowded with people, especially when a cat lives there? Mr. K's niece, apparently. Argh.

    Posted 1 year ago by Kilroy #

  4. Kilroy, I agree with Jcat, I would call the vet today.

    Posted 1 year ago by AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew #

  5. Kilroy, let Mr Kilroy do it! Go with him if you like but make him do the wrestling bit.

    Okay, bringing a large dog -- unasked -- into someone else's apartment, without checking if it's okay first or if the owner has cats, is really, really inconsiderate. But who's considerate these days? (present company excepted, of course.) Not so bad in a house because at least usually you can tether them in the back yard or garage (with shelter and food and water, of course). But a New York apartment?

    Posted 1 year ago by jcat #

  6. Yeah let Mr. K do the wrestling!

    Posted 1 year ago by AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew #

  7. She brought the dog 2 Thanksgivings ago too, and Mr. K was all impressed that Georgie "stood his ground", but for crying out loud. Stupid thing was climbing all over the furniture (with his untrimmed claws) and sticking his nose in everyone's dinner plates. Grrrrrrr. Georgie didn't go and hide or anything, but I don't think he was happy.

    Right now Georgie seems fine; he's curled up on the ottoman watching Mr. K juggle.

    Posted 1 year ago by Kilroy #

  8. oh George!...... I have to vote with the others, let Mr. K do the wrestling, but you definitely need to rule out a UTI.......

    Posted 1 year ago by AV #

  9. Oh boy..Georgie...sweet boy...My first thought was an UTI as well. You need to rule that out before anything else.
    Sorry about the doggie Kilroy :(

    Posted 1 year ago by cricketsmama #

  10. Well, if I were Georgie, I wouldn't be happy, either - first abandonment, then a doggie moving into his turf. I might have tried getting some revenge by soiling the bedding, too :)
    But you should rule out an UTI and take him to the vet, Kilroy, to make sure he's alright.

    Posted 1 year ago by GreatDane #

  11. I know, I know, but I have to go to work and Mr. K's not convinced we need to do anything. I'm working on him. :( Plus I have to go out and try to get to work on icy, slippery sidewalks, which scare the poop out of me. What fun.

    Posted 1 year ago by Kilroy #

  12. It stinks having to go back to work after the holidays, doesn't it? I was up at 4:30 to walk 3 dogs at 2 different houses before going into work this morning. Yuck!
    Hope you can convince Mr. Kilroy to take Georgie to the vet.

    Posted 1 year ago by GreatDane #

  13. Mr. K just yelled at me and said I should stay home and take the cat to the vet in a cab if I'm so convinced there's a problem. And if I don't leave right now I'm going to be late for work.

    Posted 1 year ago by Kilroy #

  14. {{{Kilroy}}}. You get to work and leave Mr K to worry and feel guilty about Georgie. I hope Georgie poops all over his lap. That might hurry things up. And don't stew on it while you're walking, put it out of your mind, or you might be more likely to slip.

    Posted 1 year ago by jcat #

  15. What Kilroy said! Poop on Daddy, Georgie!!!

    Posted 1 year ago by GreatDane #

  16. Kilroy, be careful walking out there, and I can't say fluffy things about Mr. K and his yelling at you.

    Posted 1 year ago by AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew #

  17. Well, Mr. K actually got me to the subway. I would have broken my neck otherwise; we literally slid down the subway stairs with no traction whatsoever. These kinds of conditions scare me absolutely senseless. He said he'd meet me at the subway tonight if it's still bad.

    I think the best I can do for Georgie is make an appt for this weekend and hope the weather has cleared up enough that I can get him there on my own if I have to.

    Posted 1 year ago by Kilroy #

  18. Kilroy it is your home, when the invitation goes out state no dogs allowed. Many people that have dogs love them as much as those that love cats and think everyone will feel the same. Surely you can understand that, you love George and want others to like him as well.

    If he is meowing like that and not going where he should in a clean box he is trying to tell you that he is in trouble. If you wait on a UTI he could be in much more pain and more accidents will happen. I know the weather is horrendous, but making George wait will not help the situation. Maybe Mr. Kilroy could take George to the vet while you are at work.

    Posted 1 year ago by SoxsMom #

  19. If it's not his normal attention-seeking meow, I'd get him straight to the vet. It very much sounds like a urinary tract infection, or perhaps even a crystal or stone. Seriously.

    Or at least call the vet and ask if Georgie can be prescribed an antibiotic suitable for a UTI. If it's not a UTI, it won't hurt him (just making antibiotic resistance more likely in the future). If it is a UTI, you should notice improvement within 2 days.

    If Mr. Kilroy is yelling at you because he doesn't want to take Georgie to the vet, perhaps Mr. Kilroy doesn't have a full appreciation for what it's like to live with a kitty who avoids the litterbox because it's painful whenever the kitty goes there. Even if a cab ride is needed, Georgie needs to see the vet.

    See if you can make a vet appointment for either first thing in the morning or last thing in the afternoon, but before the weekend, to minimize any time you might need to take off from work. If it's a UTI, it's not likely to get better with time, untreated; they tend to lead to worse problems.

    Posted 1 year ago by anncetera2 #

  20. Awwww hope George is ok. Maybe he's mad about that dog.

    Posted 1 year ago by HuddysMama #

  21. I just checked the vet's hours; I'm going to have to either take time off from work or convince Mr. K to take him. My boss is out this week, so taking time off is problematic at best. Any thoughts on how I'm supposed to get Mr. K to help? I don't want him to get mad(der) at me and refuse to help me get home from the subway tonight.

    ETA: I get off at 5 tomorrow and they're open until 7; I'm going to try to get an appt for 6.

    Posted 1 year ago by Kilroy #

  22. Kilroy I am praying it isn't his kidneys. Like Ann said this could be a sign of crystals--it is common for a male cat to go outside the box and cry--meow. Irreversible kidney damage could occur if untreated. Your relationship with Mr. Kilroy is like walking on eggshells. He seems to be constantly yelling. Have you told him this bothers you? It seems that he cares for you, after all he did walk you to the subway. Maybe he doesn't know any different way to communicate. You said that his family is loud, perhaps he isn't really yelling, but you are a quiet person so it seems that he is constantly yelling at you. Either way maybe this would be a good time for you to talk about it and let him know that his volume level bothers you. Prayers that you and Mr. Kilroy can talk and that you will have a peaceful and loving marriage.

    Posted 1 year ago by SoxsMom #

  23. We do SM, mostly. He's just very used to being in charge and being the boss. I do stand up to him when necessary (and was prepared to do so in this case), and then I tease him that he's the one who taught me how to do that.

    Update on George; I called the vet and they said if I could get him there by 11 today they could see him; they're only seeing patients until 12 because of the weather. Either that or I can take him in at 3:30 tomorrow.

    Further update: Mr. K just called, having just come in from the miserable outdoors, his gym was closed, the dentist where he was supposed to have an appt today was closed. I explained what the vet said and he said he would get George there. I guess my telling him that the vet was concerned when I described what was going on made the difference.

    Posted 1 year ago by Kilroy #

  24. Kilroy - I'm glad that Mr K changed his mind and will take George to the vet. And I'm SURE he'll meet you at the subway too. Sorry to hear of the horrible weather. *sits back and counts blessings for not having to shovel sunshine*

    Posted 1 year ago by 2 Popoki #

  25. Aw, Georgie...sending purrs & headbonks your way with hang in there hugs for Meowmy & Mr K! Oy, I would wait until the weather was more bearable. But at least Mr. K stepped up to the challenge! Hopeful that maybe it just is the stress from the Holidays! Crockey used to use alternative litter area when he was stressed or when I was out of town & couldn't keep the litter fresh & clean! He has been behaving lately...keeping fingers crossed!

    Posted 1 year ago by jeankit #

  26. We had our excellent kitty sitters again, so I know the box was kept clean, and it was OK this morning. I hope it's just stress, but he's been meowing in a way I've never heard before, which set off alarm bells in my head.

    I called the vet so they know he's coming, so even if he doesn't get there right by 11 (which is now), they should wait for him. They did say Georgie might have to stay there a couple of hours :( Poor boo. But better than not dealing with a problem.

    Posted 1 year ago by Kilroy #

  27. Kilroy, I'm so relieved to hear that Mr. K is taking Georgie in! I know the weather is making travel atrocious, but George's behavior is definitely not normal and probably indicates some significant discomfort.

    I hope you have good news to share with us all later on - even if it's not a happy diagnosis, the sooner a problem is accurately diagnosed, the sooner the issue can be treated. Good luck!

    Posted 1 year ago by anncetera2 #

  28. Just to complicate matters further here is some info on UTI's:

    However, you need to remeember that not every urinary tract problem involves an infection. Actually, most urinary problems do NOT involve infections. The most common urinary issue is interstitial or idiopathic cystitis in the urinary tract that will become inflamed for an unknown reason. That condition is commonely mistaken for a UTI because it can/will present itself with all the common and same symtoms: blood in the urine, litterbox avoidance, difficult/painful urination, straining to urinate, etc. Then, to complicate matters further, most urine that is tested for a UTI is gotten by a "free catch" method rather than getting it via a needle directly from the bladder. The free caught urine can and probably will be contaminated with some environmental bacteria the second it leave's the cats body, leading to a false postitive result for a UTI. Unless the cat's urine is aquired using the sterile technique of a needle directly from the cats bladder, and it is then tested immediatly, you really never or can know whether an actual infection is present.

    I personally think that many vets will overprescribe antibiotics for urinary issues. It may be because they realize that the average client will want as well as expect antibiotics for any cat with a possible UTI. It also is possibly due to the method that most vets use to get the urine - the freecatch method - which makes for contaminated urine samples as well as false positive UTI results. Antibiotics could also be given "just in case". Personally, I don't understand why a vet would prescibe antibiotics for innacuratly diagnosed or unconformed urinary issues but it happens a lot more often that most of us like to think.

    You should read this http://catinfo.org/?link=urinarytracthealth which contains a lot of helpful info on how to treat a cat with a UTI (whether the "I" stands for infection or inflamation).

    A few quotes from that article, though I highly suggest you read the whole thing:

    "Studies have shown that otherwise healthy cats (no kidney disease, diabetes, or hyperthyroidism) - that are showing signs of urinary tract discomfort - have only a ~1-2% chance of having a UT infection yet antibiotics are prescribed very frequently for these patients. The veterinary community needs to address this very serious problem involving the overuse/abuse of antibiotics."

    "Baytril is another antibiotic that is frequently abused. This drug can cause blindness so I do not take its use lightly.

    Clavamox is the most common broad-spectrum antibiotic that is administered to cats. It causes vomiting and/or diarrhea in many cats but it is one of the safer choices of antibiotics. It comes in pill or liquid form. I greatly prefer the pills because they are very palatable and can be crushed and added to canned food. I do not like pilling cats so if your cat will not eat crushed clavamox tablets in tasty canned food or baby food, then use the liquid."

    "A quick note on the long-acting antibiotic called Convenia. Because this drug stays in the body for a very long time (up to ~60 days) it is one of the newest antibiotics to be terribly overused/abused. Veterinarians and lay people are seeing it as a quick and easy fix to their problems because they don't have to give it once or twice daily like with other antibiotics. It is typically given by injection once every 2 weeks. However, keep in mind that if an adverse reaction occurs, you cannot retrieve the drug from the body.

    Convenia can cause severe anemia. There is a report on VIN (Veterinary Information Network) from a general practitioner who dealt with two cats that died within 10 days of receiving Convenia. They were otherwise healthy cats and had normal red blood cell counts prior to receiving Convenia. There is no absolute proof that Convenia caused their deaths but there is an extremely high index of suspicion that this drug was the culprit."

    Posted 1 year ago by furryfriends50 #

  29. FF50, I know how you feel about all commercial cat foods. I also know that I feed my cat the best diet I can afford and take the best care of him that I can. I do not need or appreciate a lecture at this point.

    Posted 1 year ago by Kilroy #

  30. Kilroy, I had copied this from another topic, only the last quote is about food and I will delete it. Everything else is about treatment and proper diagnosis of a UTI so I'm sorry that the info offended you; I just thought you would like to know.

    Posted 1 year ago by furryfriends50 #


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