Kidney Disease

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  • #50294
    linda
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    Brain was diagnosed with “moderate” kidney disease Friday. Is this the beginning of the end for her? We have to get special food and she’ll have special meds and we have to learn how to give sub q’s. She has lost weight, and seems a little “off”, but otherwise she is fine. She’ll be 14 in a couple months.

    #721090
    SoxsMom
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    Linda I am sorry about the diagnosis–sure not what you want to hear! I have to say though, that Deuter is much younger and has kidney disease. He has the same regiment you describe. It has worked for the past 2 years. There are times when he has a crisis, but we have a great vet that is doing the very best. If the food is a dry variety then water becomes a really big issue. We had a real hard time with him willing to eat the dry and refusing the wet. If he eats the dry I have to get him to drink and get water into him–the dry isn’t naturally the best. I have convinced him to eat the wet because I treat him to turkey–he loves turkey. My thoughts are with you–Glad she is with you because you will love her and that love is returned 10 fold.

    #721091
    linda
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    Thanks SM. I just was wondering how other people handled this. Brain does sound like Deuter, she’s not a fan of most wet food. She does like water, but we’ll just keep an eye on that.

    #721092
    SoxsMom
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    We got a fountain for Deiter–he LOVES it. Drinks and plays on occassion in the water. They say most cats don’t like water–Deuter seems to love it. He is a silly kitty! Brain just needs to keep drinking!

    #721093
    Anonymous
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    Oh Linda, I’m sorry I didn’t see this until now, and sorry about Brain’s situation. Is the food wet or dry? I noticed that once Georgie started on prescription wet food for his bladder issues he suddenly started drinking more water; it freaked me out at first because I thought something was wrong, but I think he’s just compensating for whatever he’s not getting from the food (the vet did say it wasn’t the best nutritionally but that it’s a tradeoff with the benefits for his bladder). So maybe once Brain starts getting special food she’ll start to drink more. Or like SM said, you could try a fountain.

    (((Linda and Brain)))

    #721094
    linda
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    Thanks guys. We do have a fountain and she does like water, so much so that she licks condensation off glasses and tries to lick inside the fridge! The problem is she’s not a big fan of wet food and she’s a bear to give meds too. She’s a big drama queen 😉

    #721095

    When I got a fountain Sheba drank more water. They need to to compensate for the kidneys not filtering toxins as well. Sheba was 16 when diagnosed and started on sub-q’s, which she did well on for about 6 months, then lost more weight and was put on several meds. The meds spoiled her appetite and she went downhill quickly; she past away early this month. She would have been 17 on 4/21.

    #721096
    linda
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    {{sheba’s mom}} funny, Brain and her sisters were born in late April too.

    #721097
    MadcatwomanintheUK
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    Hi Linda! Aw, poor Brain. Mum’s cat Bones had kidney disease for at least 4/5 years, Titch had it for over three years…there’s so much that can be done now through special diets and meds. You might find there’s a dry version of the special diet, which as long as Brain drinks enough, should be fine. Fountains are a good idea because the water is constantly oxygenated which most cats prefer.

    #721098
    Mojo
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    Linda, sorry to hear the news about Brain. It can be devastating. I went through the journey of CRF with Cloud from 2006 to 2008. (Avatar pic.) He was only 10 at diagnosis, but his condition was severe, and he’d lost about 40% of his body weight. The vet game him 6 months to a year. I was devastated. I quickly learned everything I could about kidney disease, and he ended up living another 29 months. My vet was calling him her “miracle cat” after a year. So you are fortunate Brain made it to age 14 before diagnosis, and it is still only moderate. Brain could have another 3 – 4 years of life (or more) left. The one resource that made a HUGE difference to me was the website, http://www.felinecrf.org It is a continually updated encyclopedia of CRF. Another great resource is the Yahoo CRF Group. Good luck!

    #721099
    JerseyJoan
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    {{{Linda & Brian}}} Brian could have lots of time with you; treasure every moment.

    #721100
    linda
    Participant

    Thanks everyone, I knew you guys would be helpful and supportive!

    Thanks for the link Mojo!

    #721101
    Mojo
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    Linda: It was a roller-coaster ride, those 29 months. But after we got him stabilized, he was pretty contented. I’d say 24 of those months he was pretty energetic and normal, too. I would also encourage you to really research as much as you can about CRF, especially via the Yahoo Group and the other site. Because what I found is that vets do not always know what the most up-to-date treatment protocols are. I actually found my vet was only prescribing Cloud about 1/4th the phosphorus binder he actually required. Not only that, I had discovered a FORM of it that was WAY more palatable for my cats than the fish-and-chicken flavored liquid m vet prescribed. She did acknowledge, implicitly, that my suggestions on a better form and dosage of aluminum hydroxide were an improvement. She asked me where I was getting the aluminum hydroxide and in what form, as well as accepted the “Nagode protocol” that everyone on Yahoo CRF was using for the binder dosage. Thank God for the internet and those groups, b/c otherwise I’d never have known the correct dosage and he certainly would’ve passed away much sooner.

    #721102
    Skyron
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    Shakespeare was diagnosed with failing kidneys a few years ago. They wanted us to put him on the special diet, but he wouldnt go near it, and he seemed to do fine without it. Then last year (or the year before, cant quite remember) they told us he only had 30% function left, and that he would need monthly IV flushes, along with the special food and sub-q fluids. We started him on that, but he was still declining fairly quickly, to a point where he didnt want to eat anymore.

    We decided to try him on raw, to see if it would tempt him, but he wasnt interested. We tried him on raw fish, and he loved that. He’s still eating fish (baby hake fillets) every day, and he is somewhat interested in the normal food we feed the other cats. Since we started him on the fish, he has gained all his weight back, he hasnt needed a flush again, and his blood levels are remaining stable, he never needs his sub-q fluids anymore. Obviously he wont be getting any function back, but the 30% he has is coping very well. He’ll be 19 in November this year.

    #721103
    Mojo
    Participant

    Skyron, that’s amazing. You must have caught in the early stages? Very fortunate he liked raw fish. I never could get Cloud onto raw food. Fortunately though he did like the Science Diet k/d. Although his appetite still needed lots of tweaking during those 29 months.

    #721104
    Skyron
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    We did catch it early all those years ago (think he was 13 or 14 at the time), but because he didnt show any symptoms we just thought he’d be ok. But then when he started losing weight, and drinking so much water, we knew something was up. Also, he was vomitting bright yellow stuff, which was scary. He didnt want anything to do with the k/d. Neither did any of the other cats – fed it to the birds eventually. The vet tech who spoke to us about his bloodwork was so amazed – said she’d never seen such an ‘old’ cat maintain his blood levels so consistently after such an initially bad diagnosis. When we took him in last year (I think?) he was in the hospital for 3 days getting his kidneys flushed out. And now he’s just like all the other cats – lazy, enjoying the sun, and having people running after him tending to his every need . . .

    #721105
    Mojo
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    Well I’m amazed that he’s – what? five years post diagnosis and still going strong, at 19 years of age! I suppose there are too many variables for me to figure. Cloud was only 10 at diagnosis, and the vet said he had about 25% of kidney function, as I recall. But he was advanced stage. I noticed because he started hiding from me when he came inside. Just going onto a closet shelf. Then he crashed. Just wouldn’t eat, sat around in a ‘meatloaf’ position all the time, drank lots of water. In retrospect it is amazing I didn’t notice his weight loss. I guess I did notice, but it didn’t seem that much. Ah, if only I could redo it. I’d have tried harder to get him on a raw diet, earlier in life (as a kitten in fact). I’d have stopped the distemper boosters, which have been linked to CRF…Oh well, we only know what we know, when we know it…

    #721106
    feral
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    {{{Brain}}} {{{Linda}}}

    I hope Brain cooperates w/any new adjustments you have to make to her lifestyle. She’s a beauty. Sending Good Wishes for her to flourish.

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