any advice for how to get 120 cc's to him (he has to get shots for it). and he is not liking it.
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Milo needs sub-Q
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Posted 3 years ago by furryfriends50 #
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I don't have any experience with this, but Anncetera and others will have ideas for you. One thought that comes to mind is having another person hold him while you are giving the fluids. Good luck with tending little Milo. Is he the wet, cold kitten you found yesterday?
Posted 3 years ago by Kitten Whisperer #
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I've had to do sc many times, but with anything but a very ill kitty it's always taken two of us at home. Of course at the vet they were so scared one person alone was able to do it. Best to do it all at once (assuming this is waht the vet recommended) to avoid multiple pokes. Did you vet give you instructions or better yet a demonstration?
Posted 3 years ago by Tigerlilly #
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No one likes being jabbed with a needle but Sub-Q is only by injection.
What are the circumstances? Is this a chronic kidney condition or a temporary illness? can he be kept hydrated by encouraging drinking?
If he is in renal failure, you can only access his quality of life and listen to him if he is telling you it is time to go. If he only has to endure this occasionally, just give him extra love when the procedure has to be done.
Are you giving him the Sub-Q or taking him to a Vet? If the latter, ask for training and do this at home where the stress of transport is taken out of the equation.
Posted 3 years ago by ailuromaniac #
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no, milo is our 16 year old cat with kidney problems. we do have a cat sack to try and hold him in one spot, so that helps, but he still hates it.
Posted 3 years ago by furryfriends50 #
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the thing is that he still really enjoys himself, and is not acting sick at all. he needs it twice a week.
Posted 3 years ago by furryfriends50 #
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I did it for the first time last night at the vet. I will see how successful I am on my own tonight. It probably takes 2 people. One will hold kitty still, maybe with his face to him/her so that you can see what you are doing. Then, find the shoulder blades, pick up the skin and make a "tent". You will feel skin only. Inject the needle on an angle into the tent, so it goes into the skin and not into muscle or bone. Make the angle slight enough so it doesn't go back out the other side of the tent. There's a lot of pressure, so use your thumb to press the dispenser. Go slow and steady. Also, don't pick up the dispenser till you have the tent ready so you don't accidentally prick yourself. Good luck - I'll be thinking of Milo when I attack Shaddo this evening.
Posted 3 years ago by JoanfromNewJersey #
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Try adding a tranquilizer to the mix. Lots of TDKer's recommend a product named "Feliway" to reduce anxiety.
Posted 3 years ago by ailuromaniac #
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okay :)
Posted 3 years ago by furryfriends50 #
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And Bach's Rescue Remedy too!
Posted 3 years ago by tuttibella #
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where can you get that from?
Posted 3 years ago by furryfriends50 #
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http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Rescue-Remedy-10-bottle/dp/B0009PQ08C
http://www.amazon.com/Farnam-Electric-48-Milliliters-Imitation-Pheromone/dp/B000FH708IIf none of the pet stores near you carries them, Amazon is a good place to try. Or just do a google search for stores near you and call them up.
Posted 3 years ago by tuttibella #
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okay :) thanks again for your help!
Posted 3 years ago by furryfriends50 #
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My vet used to use an IV setup for administering sub-Q fluids. She would let me do it at home. They would premix the IV bag for me - one bag held enough for quite a few sessions. I would administer it in the spare bedroom. I would hang the bag from a hinge on the door, then insert the IV needle the same way Joan talks about, then open the valve on the IV tube to start the drip. It worked well because once I got the needle in, I could hold the cat to calm it while the drip worked. Jerrie was a hard one, so I usually wrapped him up in a towel so he couldn't struggle away. All I had to do was replace the needle before each use. Perhaps your vet could give you the same sort of setup. Good luck!
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we have to people doing it (me and my mom). my sisters run at the thought of milo getting shots.
Posted 3 years ago by furryfriends50 #
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You can also get Bach's remedy at Whole Foods or most health food-type places.
Posted 3 years ago by Tigerlilly #
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well, you don't have to worry about claws when you put your cat in one of the cat sack things. atleast that helps, though getting him into it is another story
Posted 3 years ago by furryfriends50 #
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The sack is probably more traumatic than the shots. Welcome FF you have come the the right place to ask questions and make friends. You should invite your mom to check in as well so that she knows that you are on a friendly site. Milo will actually get used to the procedure as time goes on and you may be able to drop the sack. One of my nephew cats has to get insulin shots twice a day and he actually wakes his mom up when it is time for his morning shots.
Posted 3 years ago by KYKAT 12 23 #
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FF50, I'm sorry to hear about Milo's chronic kidney problems.
If there are two people handy to do the fluids, that would be easiest. One person occupies Milo with scritches and chin scratches and possibly even cat treats... and to restrain if needed. The other person performs the injection. If the fluid is given by bag, it'll need to be suspended for as long as the session takes to do 120 cc.
Joan gave excellent advice on exactly how to perform the injection.
It's important that you not feel scared of doing this. If you're feeling nervous or fearful about this, Milo will definitely pick up on your anxiety and will become anxious himself. Do what you need to, in order to be in a calm and self-assured frame of mind when these sessions come up.
Posted 3 years ago by anncetera2 #
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I did it!!! FF50, if I can do it, I know you can. Hubby held him steady, Shaddo cooperated, and I injected.
So now he's been trans-dermal medicated (for hyperthyroidism), force-fed (awful, but at least most of it wound up in his tummy) and sub-q'd.
Now I can leave him alone. He's such a good boy.Posted 3 years ago by JoanfromNewJersey #
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We've had several cats (all Abyssinians) who have suffered from chronic renal failure. We had to sub-Q all of them for varied amounts of time. Their quality of life can be kept quite high with fluids, meds and the right food. Eventually they let you know they want to go to the Bridge, but until then you can keep them comfortable and happy.
Keep trying different positions until you find one that your baby is the most comfortable with. For Nike (RIP) that was on the counter sitting with her paws tucked under and one of us holding her head. Reebok (RIP)was easier to do if he was standing with one of us holding the scruff of his neck. The best way with Blue Suede (RIP) was to sit cross-legged on the floor and tuck her in between our legs.
Posted 3 years ago by CheetahBoysmommy #
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Never had to sub-Q but did the insulin shots for over two years, Kinker (RIP) would lie down with paws tucked under him and wait for me. If I didn't do it right after he ate then he would come find me and lie down in front of me, and meow his very small meow if that didn't get my attention. He knew it was better for him to get the daily shot.
Posted 3 years ago by AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew #
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Good luck with your Milo---he will know you are trying to help him. As long as he is enjoying life keep doing it. God Bless.
Posted 3 years ago by Sheba's Mom in Phoenix, AZ 10/8 #
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