Oh... all the information on tomatoes has got me a little worried, I'll keep an eye on her. What an amazing group this is, so this is the famous white light? Wow. I'm speechless.
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Need advise on Pipa... please
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Posted 3 years ago by PipasMumSpain #
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More hugs are on the way, Marina!! {{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Posted 3 years ago by Kitten Whisperer #
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Oh, gosh, CW - I just saw that we did that!! How can you resist a site that says "wisegeek"????
Posted 3 years ago by WillowandWindismom #
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PM, if your ear doesn't stop bleeding soon, (like fast), then you might need to be seen. But if it does, it will probably be okay. But you'll need to try and keep it dry for about three days. I know this will sound wacko, but when you take a shower and wash your hair, try to tape a piece of cellophane wrap, or better yet, a baggie, around your ear to try and keep it dry.
Don't let Javier see you do that because it's not too stylish or sexy......
Posted 3 years ago by WillowandWindismom #
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My pleasure, CW! I wondered if it had arrived. Sorry it was missing a vital signature :-(
Posted 3 years ago by WillowandWindismom #
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Hmmmmm....
"Tomatoes, as members of the nightshade family, contain a bitter poisonous alkaloid called solanine. Solanine is toxic to humans as well, but only in large quantities, and even then, mild sickness is usually the only result. For a cat, on the other hand, even trace amounts of the substance can be fatal. Be sure to keep your cats away from tomatoes."
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{{hugs PM}}
These moments happen to all of us — I have a particularly hard time keeping track of Spook, because she hides so well.
I'm glad Pipa came home, and that she seems to be OK. Maybe she just got too hot? Anyway, keep an eye on her, and forgive yourself for being emotional.
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GD made a good point about having a cat who liked tomatoes. I had a cat who LOVED chocolate. If you opened a Hershey kiss she would be standing in front of you in seconds. She once ate an entire bag of mini Reeces Peanut Butter Cups that were left out...she opened the wrappers, ate the chocolate and left the peanut butter in disgusting lumps. She never got sick.
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((PM)) I'm glad you found her and she's ok. She was probably just scared, is all. We understand how panicked you were because we've all been there (couldn't find the cats and panicked). Just glad she's back home with you now.
Posted 3 years ago by HuddysMama #
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I had a kitty once who took a bite of a fruitcake cookie that my grandmother had made (there was a plate of cookies on the coffee table) and she spit it out. Now, what does that tell you about fruitcake??????
Posted 3 years ago by WillowandWindismom #
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I guess I won't be feeding cats tomatoes anymore! CW, your cat probably really liked the shiny crinkely wrappers, too.
Here's what I found:
"For human health, tomatoes are credited with cancer fighting properties, and as a rich source of antioxidants. I have no doubt that some people, uneducated about feline nutrition, may add this fruit to their cat's diet, hoping to achieve a similar affect. However, most people, including veterinarians, are unaware that tomato, as a member of the Nightshade family, contains a bitter poisonous alkaloid called "Solanine". Solanine is toxic to humans as well, but it requires a much more concentrated amount, like that found in green potatoes and potato sprouts, to induce sickness. For the carnivore cat, on the other side, traces of Solanin, like those found in just a 100g of cherry tomatoes, can be fatal!
Recently, one of Feline Future's cats ingested about 100g of fresh, organic cherry tomatoes, which someone had accidentally left out. This particular cat has a history of being attracted to foods unusual for a feline, and will also consume a variety of fruit if offered to him.
Not realizing the true danger of the situation when we found out about it later in the day, we did not induce vomiting, because the cat seemed fine.
24 hours later, the cat began to vomit in 3-4 hour intervals. The Veterinarian attending this case was unaware of Solanine poisoning, and wrote it off as a case of "dietary indiscretion". Although the cat was still eating, food was usually regurgitated one hour after ingestion.
48 hours after consumption of the tomatoes, the cat started to refuse all food, but began to drink. Vomiting persisted, and large amounts of offensive smelling liquids were expelled due to increased water intake.
The cat became lethargic and withdrew. X-ray and blood tests ruled out an intestinal blockage, or viral infection. He was severely dehydrated, and received Subcutaneous fluids.
On the forth day after ingestion of the tomatoes, the cat's breathing was laboured and rapid. When he moved it was slow with trembling of the limbs.
Day 5 brought no change. He remained very lethargic and his breathing was rapid and laboured. He had not eaten in 5 days. Hospitalisation and intravenous fluid therapy were considered - the cat was dying. A second Veterinarian was consulted, and treatment with Homeopathy for poisoning was recommended. The cat finally showed marginal improvement on day 6 of the ordeal.
Today, 2 weeks after the tomatoes were consumed, the cat is still recovering."
Pipa probably didn't eat the tomatoes, PM, but please DO keep an eye on her, okay?
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WWM it means what we all know: fruitcake is GROSS. Even though I used to have a boss that loved it. Whenever somebody sent us fruitcakes at home, we'd take them to her at work.
Posted 3 years ago by HuddysMama #
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That is great info, GD. I hope that Pipa didn't eat any of the plant, though!
Too true, HM. Even the Collins Street Bakery fruitcakes are yuck.
Posted 3 years ago by WillowandWindismom #
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...Oh no!! I'm freaked out now... they are cherry tomatoes!
But she is still lying down but her head is perked up and Ok... will take her to the vet tomorow, maybe better today? I have an emergency vet 15 min away...Posted 3 years ago by PipasMumSpain #
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PM, do you think that you could make Pipa vomit? I only know how to do this with humans, but with us, if you stick your finger, or a cotton swab or something like that, towards the back of the throat far enough to start the gag reflex, people will vomit. I'll bet that kitties do the same.
Posted 3 years ago by WillowandWindismom #
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I couldn't do that WWM... but I have checked her mouth and softly checked she had no pain in her stomach or her legs and paws...
Posted 3 years ago by PipasMumSpain #
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Sweetheart, why don't you just bundle her up and take her to the vet right now. Otherwise, you will be hovering over that cat all night long and will not get any sleep.
Then, when you return from the vet, you can make yourself a pitcher of sangria and drink it in honor of your good self, your darling Javier, your adventurous Pipa, and all the friends at TDK who love you.
Just a thought.
Much love,
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Oh that poor cat, GD..all that it had to go through before they even consider poisoning! Glad it is okay. Great idea Emma on all of that. PM, if you do not know if she ate the tomatoes, I think it best to take her to the vet and that way you will know if she is okay or not. You will then be able to be rest assurded that Pipa is okay.
Posted 3 years ago by SylMiaFelixsMomma #
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You know what Emma? you are right... Off to the vet.
Thank you all for support hugs and TDK magic.Posted 3 years ago by PipasMumSpain #
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I didn't want to freak you out, just have you keep an eye on her. Chances are, even if she sniffed a bit or even took a bite of a tomato, she didn't pig out and eat 100 grams.
I don't think you have to take her to the vet right now, just be sure to check on her and if she starts throwing up, then take her. Like I mentioned in another post, I had a cat who ate tomatoes frequently and NEVER got sick.
If you're really worried, maybe you could go ask the neighbor if there's signs of Pipa feasting on her tomatoes? She may not have even touched them, just be tired from her adventure and overheated. Maybe she went out searching for her friend Catwoman?
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Hey PM - don't forget all the celebrating and excitement in Spain over the last 48 hours - Pipa may well have been spooked by that and then further spooked by her adventures. I've had some pretty impressive scaratches from my cats when they've been scared. In my honest opinion I think Pipa's fine, especially from how you describe she is now, but as always, if you're worried, there's only way to be sure. Keep us posted.
Posted 3 years ago by MadcatwomanintheUK #
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PM, glad that you found Pipa and brought her home, sorry that in her scared moments she scratched you. Hope that the both of you are fine and will rest now that you both know you are safe and at home.
Posted 3 years ago by AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew #
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Keep us updated on Pipa's progress and on yourself. I'm so glad that there were several TDK'ers here to help you through that first scare for both of you.
Posted 3 years ago by LadyKat of IA #
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Karen, you are so kind!
By the way, I just got an e-mail from Catster concerning poisons and pets (those people must be psychic), and it is really interesting:
http://blogs.dogster.com/vet_blog_information_advice/protect-your-pet-from-three-common-poisons/
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Good morning!
Well, first of all, thank each and everyone of you for being so supportive yesterday. I felt understood and cared for and that really calmed me down.I took Pipa to the emergency vet, it was rather late. She looked at her felt he tummy and told me I had a beautiful cat! She's fine! Yay! I am a crazy cat lady and I wouldn't have slept a wink if I didn't make sure she was OK. Javier wanted to drag me to hospital because of the ear! I wasn't necesary, it dried up pretty fast and this morning I have a nasty scratch but that is all.
I checked up on Pipa and she was playing with Melon... silly cat...The bad news is that no more playing in the terrace, poor Melon is going to miss it badly but I'm not risking any more adventures.
Hugs to all again.
Posted 3 years ago by PipasMumSpain #
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PM, glad that both Pipa and you are fine after the scare :)
Posted 3 years ago by AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew #
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